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Former Zags, where are they now?

Old Zags don't die, they just go to Europe, Asia or even the NBA.

James Snook-USA TODAY Sports

I think we all know where Pangos and Olynyk are playing, but here are some names you may not be following unless you have a lot of spare time to search the internet.  Brevity prevents me from including dozens of other former players, so if you want to include someone, or include more information on the names I mentioned, please do so in the comments section.

Jeremy Pargo: Jeremy has been a star in Israel, had a couple of stints in the NBA and signed a huge contract in Russia.  In July of this year, Jeremy signed with the Zhejiang Guangsha Lions for "less than $2 million" (?). In the Lions first game, Jeremy had 12 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists.

Gary Bell Jr.: Playing in Poland for Siarka Tarnobrzeg, the same team that four years ago featured an 18-year-old Przemysław Karnowski. The team is currently 3 – 1 with Gary starting and is 2nd on the team in scoring with 13.3 points, along with 2.5 assists.

Sam Dower: Sam signed with Boulogne in the French "A" after playing in the NBA Summer League last year.  Things didn't work out in France and he went to Latvia to play the remainder of the year. He is now in Poland playing for MKS Dabrowa Gornicza. The team is currently 2 – 2 with Sam 2nd in scoring at 11 ppg and pulling down 5.3 rebounds.

David Stockton: Waived by the Sacramento Kings on their final cut, David is expected to return to the King’s D-League team, the Reno Bighorns, where he put up such gaudy numbers last season. (He’s featured on the Bighorn’s homepage touting their Nov. 7 preseason game)

Austin Daye: Waived by the Cavs (who of course kept Delly) on Oct 23, he may be headed for their D-League team, the Canton Charge.

Micah Downs: Currently playing for JuveCaserta in Italy. According to Micah is leading the team in minutes and is 3rd in scoring with 10 ppg.

Matt Bouldin: After winning a D-League championship in 2014 and making the 12 man D-League select team (playing in the NBA Summer League) in 2015 Matt’s now playing in Korea, an odyssey chronicled by this New York Times article. According to, Matt is playing only 8 mpg and averaging about 6 points (injured?) with the Changwon LG Sakers,

Josh Heytvelt: Well-traveled Josh, with stops including Turkey, Rome, Croatia seems to be flourishing with the Hitachi SunRockets in Japan, Josh is their starting center and averaging 21 ppg.

Ira Brown: One of the more interesting stories in Zag Basketball, Ira was a minor league pitcher for 5 years (with a stint in Spokane) before forsaking baseball to play college basketball in his mid -20’s. A JUCO transfer, Ira was big, tough and could fly. Also a basketball gypsy with stops in Mexico, Argentina, the Philippines, Ira is playing alongside Heytvelt for the SunRockets, starting at small forward and averaging 14.8 points through 6 games.

Ronny Turiaf: Out of basketball but not officially retired, Ronny is "worldwide" according to his twitter feed but is currently closer to the Spokane River than he is the Seine.  He has this website:

J. P. Bautista: After stops in Lithuania and Latvia, J. P, played in the top French League for 7 years, winning a championship with Limoges last year. Many of us got to re-live his sweet post moves during this summer’s Pan-American games. At 33, he’s back home in Brazil playing for Flamengo.

Derek Raivio: Derek has played in some beautiful places in Europe; Cologne and Trier Germany, Aalst, Belgium, and currently in Nancy, France. He’s played 4 games this year in Nancy, averaging 28 mpg, 10 points, and is shooting 50% (9 of 18) from 3.

Steven Gray: After a year in Latvia and a brief stint in Lebanon, Steven seems to have found his niche in the top level French "A" league where he was an all-star last year. He’s also been invited to the NBA Summer League each of the last four years. Currently playing in Dunkirk, France (tough gig) he’s the team’s leading scorer at 15.2 ppg and shooting 51% from 3.

Elias Harris: After a brief stint with the Lakers, I assumed Elias would be tearing up the German League, but he is playing for their 2015 champions, the Brose Baskets in Bamberg (another tough gig) and hasn’t yet cracked the starting line-up. This year, he is playing in every game averaging 12.2 minutes and 5.8 points.

Drew Barham: After a year in Japan playing for the Oita Heatdevils, Drew has taken his jumper to the Czech Republic and is playing for small forward for Sluneta. He is his teams leading scorer with 14.2 ppg but only shooting 34% from 3.

Guy Landry-Edi: Guy played for Champagne Châlons-Reims from 2013 to 2015, a team promoted to the French "A" League in 2014.  He is currently playing for STB Le Harve where he's averaging 25.4 mpg, 5.8 ppg and I'm sure he's accomplishing some rim-rocking dunks.

Author's Note:  Kinda cool Heytvelt and Brown are playing together while Dower and Bell are battling in Poland and Raivio, Gray and Edi face one another in France.