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Eight Straight: Sam Dower, Gary Bell spur Bulldogs run

After dropping back-to-back games against Big Ten opponents in early December, Gonzaga fans were reeling a bit about their 2011-12 Zags. In those two losses against Illinois and Michigan State, Sam Dower averaged 13.5 minutes and 3.5 points. In fact, leading up to that game, the promising sophomore power forward only had one game where he scored in double figures and that came against lowly Western Michigan. Since those two losses, however, Dower has come alive. In Gonzaga's last eight games, all wins, Dower has been in double figures six times and the two times he wasn't in double digits...he scored nine points. For Sam, it isn't just that he is scoring a bunch of points, it is that he has been incredibly efficient. He hasn't shot below 50% from the floor since that Michigan State loss and is doing it all for the Zags over the last eight games.

While Dower hasn't been the sole reason for the Bulldogs' recent success, you would be hard pressed to find someone that has had more of an impact. With Dower playing at a high level, Gonzaga truly has one of the top front lines in the nation. While Rob Sacre and Elias Harris have their own solid skill set, neither player comes close to Dower in terms of low post scoring ability. If Sam can keep this up, the two-loss Zags have a very promising outlook as they continue their conference slate. There is not a frontline remaining on Gonzaga's schedule that can match what the trio of Harris, Sacre, and Dower are currently bringing.

Star-divide

As I said in the intro, while Sam Dower is a huge reason for the Zags eight game win streak, he is by no means the sole force behind this team.

Specifically, the play of Gonzaga's freshmen guard duo has continued to be nothing short of outstanding. Last night's win over Santa Clara exemplified how much of an impact Kevin Pangos and Gary Bell Jr. have had. While Kevin Pangos burst on the scene in a big way with his 33 point barrage against Washington State, Gary Bell has quietly had a major impact on this team. And every time that Zags take the court, Bell continues to gain confidence on both ends of the court. He has quickly become this teams most accomplished defender, holding star Santa Clara guard Kevin Foster to nine points last night. It was Foster's first game of the 11-12 season where he didn't score in double figures. Also, it was the first game of the year for Foster where he didn't hit a single three point shot. In the past four games, Foster had hit about four per game. To compare, last season against Gonzaga, Foster averaged 33 points per game and averaged seven made three point baskets. To hold him to nine points and 0-4 from deep is nothing short of remarkable.

While there are still a number of inconsistencies with this team, there are no glaring weaknesses in my view and that is something we haven't been able to say in quite some time. With Kevin Pangos and Gary Bell, the Zags have guards that can get it done on both ends and feed their talented front court. If Guy Landry Edi or Marquise Carter can step up and provide solid, consistent minutes, this team could have a dominant second half of the season. We are about to learn a lot more on Thursday when the Bulldogs take on Saint Mary's. The Gaels have one of the most potent 1-2 punches in the conference in Matt Dellavedova and Rob Jones. That combo is averaging nearly 30 points per game for the 14-2 Gaels. It will be a measuring stick game for both as the jury remains out on Saint Mary's which still lacks a real quality win except for dominating BYU at home.

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I like the way this team is shaping up...

And while I’m excited about what can happen with this team, it’s vital that Dower continues to get better. Because as we saw earlier in the season, Sacre struggles against the better teams with quality big men….and as you pointed out Dower really didn’t show up for those games either. These last eight games were great, but nowhere did Dower have to do it against a formidable front court. Here’s hoping come late March Dower continues to do what he’s been doing.

by TGood '07 on Jan 8, 2012 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

SO much better when Dower is on...

Sacre had 4 blocks last night,,, 8 rebounds,, I know he’s not quite 100%, but he is doing fine, focusing more on D and boards.

by mattzag72 on Jan 8, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

3 spot

Dower has been hot, but it’s not just his O but his rebounding has been much better lately as has his D. Bell has been great. Enjoy the ride b/c it’s only going to get better.
But as we head into WCC play and look forward to Thursday’s match-up with St. Mary’s and think about March (we can we’re fans not players) the only question I have left with this team is the 3 spot.

The Zags have:
2 great guards, do it all – score, defend, pass, and handle the rock.
2 big guys that are playing great on both O and D
a 6th man who can lead the team in scoring any night.
a great bench

The only spot that still needs some tightening up is the 3 spot. Guy has been awesome on D but needs more time to get comfortable on O. (Would be nice if Few would let him stay out there after a mistake) Hart has been…well…Hart. Great energy guy, but with the lack of O he can only be out there 10 mins or so and in sperts. Carter seems to be getting back into last years form, hope he does.

So will one of these guys emerge as the man at the 3 spot or will it be who’s the hot man that night?

by suzag on Jan 8, 2012 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

The 3 spot

In Mike’s defense, he’s hit a couple big threes, especially against Xavier, but you’re right, the points he averages make him basically a non-factor on offense. However, I think he’s more capable than we, or opposing teams, think he is. It seems to me that Guy makes a lot of dumb mistakes, but shows real flashes of potential. Marquise is a little small for the 3 and not as good of a defender as Guy or Hart. They’ve all got the potential to take the majority of the 3-spot’s minutes, but I like Guy in this one. If he improves, he’ll definitely get the starting spot over Mike

by silvermalazar on Jan 8, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I like how the playing time at 3 is unfolding.

I think Hart has been a key performer, especially early in the year- giving us defensive stops, leadership, and ball movement. I don’t think you need 5 scorers on the floor at one time. You need more than 1 or 2, but you don’t need 5. Almost every great team in history has had a “glue guy” as a key player/starter. Carter is playing better every game- slashing to the hoop, steals on D, good instincts in transition. IMO he’ll keep getting better, especially as his J comes back. I agree that Landry-Edi has the biggest upside. I’m excited like everyone about watching him break out. Right now he looks raw. Obviously a freakish physical talent, but raw.
Long story short, I encourage us to relax and enjoy this journey and watch this thing unfold. What’s wrong with having 3 players sharing the 3, with the minutes going to the hot hand. Besides, you could argue that starting is somewhat overrated. Who’s in there at the key times is more important. Recently all three have had their days. May have been Carter last night.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see Few switch up who starts at the 3 depending on the team

Against a smaller team like St. Mary’s, start Carter as Bell will be guarding Dellavedova so we can sacrifice a little on defense and go smaller at the 3. Against a team like BYU, use Hart to set the tone defensively at the start of the game then use Edi/Carter accordingly.

by i_am_a_ZAG on Jan 8, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

E at the three

I thought at the beginning of the season Few was going to give Harris more freedom with his outside shot. Let’s face it he’s going to be a 3 at the next level. I think our best lineup is with dower at the 4, rob at the 5 and harris at the 3 . In fact, if E stays next year, can you imagine a dower, spangler, harris frontline?

"Average is as Average does"

by NCWzagfan on Jan 9, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Harris has a lot of trouble guarding the perimeter

I dunno if he will play 3 at the next level.

There have been guys in the NBA that have made a very long career out of playing in the middle at his size. Wes Unseld for one.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jan 9, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Harris at the 3 is intriuging

But it’s important to mix his low game with his outside game. I worry that leaving him at the 3 will discourage him from going inside and ending up with a season like his Sophomore one where he played most of his offense from the outside.

by pc3 on Jan 11, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the post, if you look closer at the game Mr. Bell was not responsible for Mr. Fosters 3 foul shot makes or another make. Saying he held him to 9 does GBJ an injustice.

Reading some of the more recent comments about the “3” position in the starting lineup for GU, they are inane at best! Maybe an entire POST should be set aside for this folly?

by mikesequim on Jan 8, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

How about explaining what you mean by inane, rather than just cutting us down.

Can you contribute to the discussion, besides your usual rants about Mike Hart. I think it is “inane” that you don’t see his value to this team and the contributions he has made to its success.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I would hope that, by looking at your site name......

You could at least, 1) open a dictionary 2) research on line. Your very comments acknowledge the issue to which I addressed my point. Thank you for your confirmation.

by mikesequim on Jan 8, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I repeat, what's your point?

I’m just asking you to explain your statement. I thought you had more game than that. You’re one of the people around that I actually bother to pay attention to. I’m asking you what is inane about the comments? What are you saying about my name? Is it a crack about basketball in Md? I doubt it. Do you not appreciate Zag fans in Md? How about ones that travel annually across the country to see a game? Been to Battle of Seattle, been to Huntsman Arena in SLC. You’ve got to explain yourself! Come on man! You’re better than 1st grade name-calling.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah Mike....

Have an open discussion with this guy. He is fair….NOT.

He is the guy that said to me “Pure Effing Blather” in his subject line about one of my posts.

Md…perhaps your reputation preceeds you.

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That's about the 4th time you've reprimanded me for that comment I made.

Are you kidding me! I thought this was a sports team blog site. Give me a break! Are we a tad thin-skinned? One thing I never do is criticize without making a counter point. I was frustrated with the incessant discussion regarding playing time for our 10-12 players. I’m sooooo sorry I hurt your feelings. Did I mistakenly log on to the Lady Zags site?

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with MD

When despertions are cast on individual players that the Zag coaches with a top 25 team choose to play, without any sort of complete facts to back up there allogations really pisses me off. It very short sighted by the poster who must lack the basketball knowledge to look at the compete player and game.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think of Mike Hart in the tradition of a Dennis Rodman or a Kurt Rambus both essential to their team but neither one a Michael Jordan and I try to focus in on what they are accomplishing away from scoring. I’m a big fan of Mike Hart for what he does but also the way he challenges every player on the team to maximise their skills and never give up. Rant done

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Defense

I watched numerous scrimmages this year and to start the year Mike was the "gold standard “for defense” One could say he is highly responsible for the teams increased level of defense as the other players attempted to emulate him. They have all raised their level of defence—Thanks Mike

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice rant.

I am in the camp of, who else do we have at the 3 to help the team going forward?

Although Hart gives 100%, so far I see him as an offensive liability. Edi Landry has not shown he is the answer, or ready yet, to be the answer. Had he started out playing with the rest of the team, instead of serving the suspension, maybe he would be ready. MM seems like a defensive liability, and streaky shooting the deep ball. Carter is to small for the three. So, what is the answer?

Sure, we could all divert to the expertise of the coaching staff, and have nothing to talk about, or, we can debate to our hearts content.

My opinion: Start Edi, bring Hart first off the bench…but I don’t know nothing and I admit it. :o)

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Foster

To my knowlege I was the only one who stated that Will Foster would play more basketball in the USA. He is currently the only former Zag playing in the “D” league. I got a bunch of attacks for that one.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Com'on man

Nobody could have seen that coming. He airballed free throws. No lateral speed, no athleticism. Slow as heck. No offensive post moves.

Tell me….what made you think he would be able to play pro ball and be the only Zag playing currently in the NBA Developmental League? Wanna try your luck in stocks and lotto tix too? I am a believer.

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

First of all his height.7"5" Second, he had a very good motor, he was the fastest Zag to run the mile. third He actually had a good feel for the ball, I watched him in summer scrimmages and he had better hands than most Zag bigs. It all would come down to his attitude-I do not believe Few liked him from what I saw. He really had no competiveness in him-the proverbial “gentle giant” kind of the way I would like my kids to be-pretty nice human beings. I knew if he could be instilled with a competetive spirt he would be extremely usefull.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the details, interesting about the mile speed.

Someone around here always says, “you can’t teach height”, maybe it was Quidveritas, and he definately has that.

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Foster 15 3 18.0 .540 .000 .423 3.20 3.90 7.10 .4 .13 3.27 1.93 1.87 6.

by zag buddy on Jan 9, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

the last thing

you could accuse Mike of is having a lack of BB knowledge.

If you don't like my fire then don't come around...

by mattydog73 on Jan 9, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

LOFL...dude you are a hoot!

You are the same guy that called Mattzag72 an idiot, and told him to get his ugly pic off of your comp screen. Now, you are freaking out on Mike, and then went postal on matt72 for no reason whatsoever. And yes, I do remember the nasty thing you said to me….wasn’t that your intention? For me to remember? Success, lol.

Look, all I am doing is pointing out that you seem to like baiting people. My feelings are not harmed by your bullets in the least. Just pointing out the FACTS.

If you want to discuss basketball, and not hurl insults… let me know.

Oh..one more thing, I presume Mike thought you were a doctor…and that he meant no disrepect that you hail from Maryland. So, you were not right in what you took as a dis. Of course, Mike was wrong too, because you are not a doctor, right?

Peace Out…Go Zags!!~

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You didn't read what he said to me!

He called me a troll and a dingbat. What the heck is that.?
I do purposely try to be provocative on here. Why else bother to read or contribute to a blog? I dare you to check the archives and read my entries. I am always thoughtful and I try to contribute to the discussion.
You can call my stuff blather, which you’ve done, as long as you can come up with a counter or rebuff or something other than namecalling.
Later.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Whaaa,whaaaa,....did mike hurt yer lil feeeelings pooo? Get yer knickers out of that twist!!

Get over it. What you have said is Pure Effing blather!!! OK…just kidding.

But you see?…it can go both ways.

Let’s just keep it to basketball, huh? heheh

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly!

Now back to my original point: Why were the comments about the 3-man “inane”? I’d like to respond to that. Isn’t that what a blog is about? Please ask Mike for me.
All I said to prompt your other boy, Matty was: can we have a discussion about what’s causing the turnovers (more interesting to me) rather than just saying we need to reduce turnovers (rocket science). Check the archives. Instead of a comment or “Hey Md Zag that’s pure blather, because…….”, I was called a troll and a dingbat.
I’m done. Thanks for the back and forth. Later.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

You keep sayin you're done...but here you are, lol

I did not see where you were called a troll and dingbat. The blather thing was a back at ya deal. And you know it.

Neither of the guys are my boys, that is another attempt at drawing hostility. I will not bite.

You have mouthed off to Mike, me, and called Matt72 some nasty things. The facts.

Once we can get past that….we can talk shop {Basketball}.

Important game coming up on Thursday, huh?

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy Gaz

Gaz go up a few posts and look what you said to me about my thoughts on Will Foster.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Some might think you were calling me a liar.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Zag Buddy, Sorry you erroneously took it that way...

I know Will Foster is in the D league. I was giving you PROPS for being the only one who called it right. And, I was genuinely curious as to what you saw in him that helped you to see his ultimate potential that was missed by the Zag staff.

Calling you a liar was the farthest thing from my mind, and I certainly feel most readers know it too.

I hope we are ok on this now?

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I take things more literal than others. No problem, I know we are all pulling for all our Zags.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

First, I think I called someone ELSE "troll", and "dingbat"

wrong to do either way,,,
I guess that explained you calling me picture ugly…
which is no big deal, as i am not a model, and this isn’t a dating site…LOL

by mattzag72 on Jan 8, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Peace Brother. Sorry on my part. Shouldn't have needed to snap back.

Like was said earlier, we’re all rabid Zags fans. Time to point our ire and hatred toward St Mary’s. Man, I wish they still had Sanham. Never mind, they’re still very hatable.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing wrong with an occasional dust-up

on the internet…we are all Zag fans…
We are passionate about them, so we go a little overboard,,, I really just thought you were early into the New Year Celebration..sounds like something I would do!

by mattzag72 on Jan 8, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

finally had some time off

went back and looked at my comment,,, without a doubt, directed toward Berkie, MDZagFan not even in thread… first, I regretted comment… second, are you Berkie, as well…??? I have only one name on all these sights…why have multiple names on one sight.? I also called San Jose a troll , as i looked at all my posts… name calling is dumb, but if you feel the need to post under different names, maybe a person is missing the point of fan oriented sites.

by mattzag72 on Jan 10, 2012 6:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought we were trying to move on.

I interpreted it as a reply to what I said. If I was also Berkie or SanJose, I would have responded to you as Berkie or SanJose. Don’t really know why someone would have multiple sign-ins. Same reason why I don’t tell lies: I’m not smart enough to keep track of all that stuff.
I accepted your misgivings and I think you accepted mine.
F%^& the Gaels!!

by MdZagFan on Jan 10, 2012 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I think...

maybe the assumption was made that the “MD” stood for medical doctor…opposed to the abbreviation of the State….

If you don't like my fire then don't come around...

by mattydog73 on Jan 9, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Mediation..

Sheesh! so much anger on here! haha. Were all Zag Fans here, and its not certain that we will all agree on the same subjects ex: Mr Hart playing time etc…Which is fine, but lets not make this a school yard brawl fellas….

Go ZAGS!

4 more days till we stomp the Gaels, i mean faels!

JSH

by scotthen49 on Jan 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

Pre game jitters huh

Wow, you guys are definately in pre game mode. Bell yielded only 4 points to the guy who torched us for 30 + twice last year. Can’t really fault Edi for losing him on the long 2 though as it was somewhat of a broken play.
Carter should start at the 3 vs St Marys and Edi should get the nod at BYU.
That’s my take. I’m fine with Hart getting his minutes bit they are best off the bench IMO.

by Yakazag on Jan 8, 2012 5:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Not Sure It Matters

I don’t think it really matters who starts at the 3. What matters is how they play while they’re in and how quickly they’re yanked. Hart’s got the job for now. If Edi or Carter earn it by outplaying him then they get it.. Few has shown he’ll play it that way unless you’re in his doghouse.

by OCZag on Jan 8, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Good job getting us back on topic. Sorry about that. Kind of cathartic though.

I’ll go along with all of that. Devils advocate- coaches sometimes like to start the same 5 as a sort of security blanket. Lots of apprehension by everyone concerned starting a game, and maybe a coach feels a tad more control of the situation if he feels like he knows how his group will react at the opening jump. Then after the game takes on a flow, tempo or personality, substitutions make more sense.

by MdZagFan on Jan 8, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Incumbent

Good point. Yup, there are some advantages to being the incumbent just like in politics.

by OCZag on Jan 8, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure who is arguing what.....

but, playing Hart now is fine with me. But if he’s our starter or if he see’s significant minutes in March, we AINT going that far. He has no business being on the court playing teams like Mich St or Illinois….I love bringing him in for a spark, some hustle and a few “keeping the ball alive” type plays but that’s it.

Please stop comparing him to Rodman or Rambis…that is an absolute joke. There is a difference between playing against the best players in the world and playing WCC teams or hawaii and western michigan.

If you really want to talk about Hart’s worth lets take his average stats against the best four teams we’ve played, ND, Illinois, Mich St, and Xavier…his average line is this: 15.5 mins; 4.25 reb; 1.25 AST; 1 STL; 4 fouls and 2.75 points per. What kills me is the number of fouls he commits and the relatively low amount of rebounds he has compared to points scored against quality teams.

by TGood '07 on Jan 8, 2012 6:37 PM PST reply actions  

Looking at those slective stats, I guess I should have said he was better than Rodman and Rambus.

by zag buddy on Jan 8, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hart's defense and rest of his game.

Hart is doing what the coaches want at the defensive end. He attacks whoever he is guarding and does not give him any room. His job is (in someways) to find out how tight the refs are calling it. Then you will have Carter and Edi come in and do the same. They have 15 fouls to give. The same can be said at the 4/5 where we have 20 fouls to give. Then we hope that we do not end up with as many at the 1/2.

Hart takes the offensive charges. He gets rebounds or tips the ball when we are not expecting it. And he plays tight defense against the opponents. On offense, he runs the plays well and when he is open (and near the end of the shot clock) he will take the shot. Until then his job is to try and get the ball to our best shooters in a position to score (Harris/Sacre down low and Pangos/ GB out high). He is doing exactly what the coaches want.

by zag67 on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This is what I was getting at TGood

I don’t think it matters who plays the 3-spot in WCC play as the Zags should win it even if you split the time 14, 13, 13 between the three of them. As all have had their moments both good and bad.

My real question is if this team is a real final four type team who is going to guard Harrison Barns or Michael Kidd-Gilcrest? March is what really counts…I know you got to get there first, but if your goals are just to get there fine. I don’t think Gonzagas goals are just to get there.

by suzag on Jan 9, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Lineup

As with some other comments I think the rotation is rounding into shape. I have been very impressed with Carter the past few games. He could have gotten down after poor shooting but has been back into the flow with good defense, good passes, and fewer turnovers. The three discussion is a little misleading – so far that position has been Hart, Stockton, Carter, Landry, Morninghoff (sp.) depending on personnel. Quite a “few” times they have been playing essentially three guards with some combination of Sacre, Harris, and Dower. Problems I see are if GB gets in foul trouble. Against St. Mary’s question is who will guard Delladedova and Jones. And the others have to play well defensively too because Holt and Page have the potential to hit the three. That being said if the bigs play well St. Mary’s should have a difficult time down low.

by gon2mt on Jan 8, 2012 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

SanJoseZag....

where are you? I would like you to come here and tell me your great insights regarding Dower….and Harris for that matter….if you recall this was my question to you:

The question is: when Dower starts making his shots, and playing better then what will you say? Will you still insist he has regressed….or will there be a flip flop of your "objectivity"?

And what you had to say:

"Pressing too much"? Lacking "confidence"? Those statements mean nothing. Dower has regressed. If you don’t see that, you are not being objective. Harris has not developed ANY moves whatsoever. None. Lower head. Travel. Bash into defender and hope for call. Dower is scoring less in more minutes. He is shooting 41% this year, while he shot 57% last year. And he is probably the softest big man in the country.
But I guess that means he is getting better in your book.

If you don't like my fire then don't come around...

by mattydog73 on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

A nice sentiment...

I’d definitely appreciate fewer flame wars polluting this space.

by Nadingo on Jan 10, 2012 6:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

flame war?

no. I was asking him to come and continue our conversation. What does he have to say now? It is a fair question and one I asked before…as you can see. If you want to see petty post… or flame wars…you need only scroll back up.

I realize you relish the thought of being the “voice or reason” but seriously keep your false piety to yourself. You call him a troll then say let’s be nice to each other?

If you don't like my fire then don't come around...

by mattydog73 on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Whoaaa...stop anointing Dower. He looks good right now against lesser opponents but where the hell was he against ND, ILL and MSU?

I agree he looks good now, he looked great against Xavier, but they didn’t have the big men ILL and MSU have. His stats against ND, ILL and MSU respectively: 2 pts, 2 reb, 3 to; 5 pts, 2 reb, 2 to; 2 pts, 4 reb, 3 to.

We need him to be good against those types of teams, I think he’s getting there but how much has he really progressed if he still can’t do it against teams with quality bigs?

by TGood '07 on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Road vicrories are vital

Gonzaga has not had many true road games, so beating St. Mary’s & Loyola Mt. on the road this week is priority; should move us into top 20, and make the Bulldogs serious contenders for a 3-4 seed; and more importantly, a 12th consecutive WCC title.

by rnpljnsn on Jan 9, 2012 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

Don't look now but,

we already are ranked, in all three polls, and that is of course without whipping St. Mary’s yet.

Less than 44.5 hours until Doomsday comes to Moraga and St. Mary’s.

Final 4 or Bust!!~

by gaz-tastic on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

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