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Curious About 2012 Recruiting? Josh Gershon of Scout.com Analyzes Top Gonzaga Recruits


As the month of July quickly approaches, it means that our favorite month of the basketball year is nearly here. With the current recruiting rules in place, July has become the month for college coaches to spend on the road evaluating AAU teams and elite prospects. This July will be no different, as the Gonzaga coaching staff will be spread out across the country to see some of the top talent in 2012. At this point, we know there will be certain recruits that will have the attention of the coaching staff (Skylar Spencer and Richard Longrus), while there also recruits that appear to no longer be on the radar (Demarquise Johnson).

In hopes of providing all of you with as much information on some of these top prospects, we decided to check in with Josh Gershon (if you aren't already, be sure to follow him on twitter @JoshGershon), who is a recruiting analyst for Scout.com and provides unbelievable coverage on West Coast recruits. Too be perfectly honest, Josh provides the recruiting coverage and information that Gonzaga fans have longed for. In the interview with Josh, we not only got his opinion on some of the key Gonzaga targets, but also spoke with him about the impact that Donny Daniels can make on the recruiting landscape. Once again, we would like to thank Josh for taking the time for this interview and providing great insight on some of the key names for Gonzaga fans this summer.

On Richard Longrus (Bishop O'Dowd/Oakland Soldiers)/ Holds Offers From: Gonzaga, UCLA, Colorado, UNLV, St. Mary's and Santa Clara

Josh Gershon: It's difficult to evaluate him due to the depth of the Oakland Soldiers, he doesn't get a ton of playing time each game. They have 10+ high DI guys, and they split up the minutes, so there are games where he will only play 5-10 minutes. When I watched him at EYBL in Los Angeles, he came in and he was a high energy guy. He really plays hard on the glass and mostly scored off putbacks. He is the kind of guy that could definitely do damage at a school like Gonzaga. But when it comes to his ultimate upside, I am going to need to keep watching him, because there are so few opportunities to evaluate him on such a loaded AAU team. With that said, I absolutely love him in a conference like the WCC.

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On some of the reports that Longrus might be a lock for UCLA:

Josh Gershon: I think schools like Gonzaga, and other schools, will have the opportunity to try to get heavily involved with Richard before UCLA becomes a serious option.

On Skylar Spencer (Price/ Team Jennings)/ Holds Offers From: Gonzaga, USC, Cal, USC, UNLV and Colorado

Josh Gershon:  He has the ability to be a good offensive player in time.  I have gone out to see him a couple of times this spring and he has been hurt, so I really haven't been able to get a feel for how his game has developed over the past year. You aren't expecting a power forward in high school to be that developed skill-wise. At this stage, you are really trying to project based on their body and the feel for the game.  So there is no question he could develop into a good offensive player. The next time I see him is obviously going to be big for me in trying to gauge how much he has developed over the past year.

On why Gonzaga is in a good position with Spencer and what might ultimately be the key factors in his recruitment:

Josh Gershon: It's a big thing to have that offer out there early, because recruiting is about relationships. Obviously, Gonzaga has plenty to offer as a program. So the fact that he hasn't really played this spring, and that there is really nothing to report on his progress, is really big for Gonzaga because the more those coaches can develop that relationship and show that they were one of the first ones to offer the better relationship they will have. Too be able to develop that loyalty and trust with him, that is really going to help.

Now, when schools see him in July, if he plays well and shows some of the same stuff he has shown over the past year, he is going to end up with Pac-12 offers. So at the end of the day, it's going to depend, like it has for so many Gonzaga recruits, is he cool with being the man in the WCC at a great school like Gonzaga, or does he want to compete night in and night out at bigger schools in the Pac-12? Gonzaga has seen this play out in several recruitments, and I think this will be a very similar case to what you have seen before.

On Tyrone Wallace (Bakersfield/ Double Pump)/ Holds Offers From: Gonzaga, Arizona St., Cal, Colorado, Florida St., Fresno St., Nevada, San Diego St., USF, UNLV and Utah

Josh Gershon: I think he is a "1" at the next level, but it is heavily debated among scouts what exactly he is. I just look at the fact that he can handle the ball so well with both hands and he has great vision. If you start to put him out at shooting guard, he is not a great shooter. I think he is someone that can develop into a really good point guard down the line. He is 6'3, he is long and he is going to fill out. Right now, he has such a skinny body, but if you put some weight on him and he gets some college coaching, he is someone that could become a good college player. He is definitely someone that is much more prospect than player at this point and he is definitely not a sure thing either, but he has the chance to be a really good college player down the line.

On the lack of point guard options in the 2012 class, which will be interesting to follow if Gonzaga elects to bring in a point guard this class:

Josh Gershon: There are so few PG's out West, so schools are going to have to take a flyer on guys they might not necessarily love. I don't know if Tyrone Wallace falls into that category, but he does have a high ceiling. If you look at Josiah Turner, the top point guard out West last year, there is no one like Josiah Turner out West this class. That is why guys like Tyrone Wallace, Dominic Artis and Calaen Robinson are really going to benefit in getting scholarship offers from schools that are really desperate for a point guard after the 2011 class didn't produce many either.

On Donny Daniels and the impact he will have on recruiting:

Josh Gershon: The thing with Donny Daniels is that he is extremely respected out West.  He is extremely well-liked by the high school coaches and AAU coaches in the LA area and throughout the state. He is an older guy and he has a lot of connections. The biggest thing with him is that you can't really find anyone that is going to say a bad word about Donny Daniels. People really have the highest level of respect for him as a coach, as an evaluator and as a recruiter. I think he really was a big addition for Gonzaga.  It's really going to get the school into some doors it might not have been able to get into before. He was obviously a great hire for them.

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I love the note about Donny Daniels...

I think this recruiting class will prove his worth and pay dividends. I’m sold on Skylar Spencer, glad to see that Demarquise Johnson is off the radar, and intrigued to see how Gonzaga will fill a vacated spot in the paint.

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by Zagnificent on Jun 8, 2011 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

We do have that 7' walk-on from the crew team

Does anyone know anything about him and his progress?

Will he be back?

He looks like an athlete to me. You can teach skills but you cannot teach 7’0".

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 8, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't hold my breath

You can teach skills, but unless he’s some kind of latent basketball genius I don’t think he could pick up half of what he needs to in order to compete. Then again, Will Foster…

by CLT_ZagsFan on Jun 9, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Longrus=

Arop with a dash of Harris…. Only lil bigger than Arop and lil slower than both..IMO nice video but I all he did was dunk on nobody or guys he is half a foot taller than. How is he in traffic and with contact??? that is what I would like to see…that and his abilty to shoot off the dribble…

Also, we don’t need Tyrone Wallace. We have 3-4 incoming PG players or players who can play the point…Bell, Pangos, Draginis, Sarbaugh and we have Stockton for 3 more years. On top of this the pg prospects for 2012 are lacking…so this position should be pushed to 2013 at the earliest.

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by mattydog73 on Jun 9, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Wallace

I’ll be pretty upset if Wallace somehow gets an offer, much less a scollie. We have enough pgs, and we definitely don’t need a “meh” pg.

by CLT_ZagsFan on Jun 9, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

As mentioned in the article, here is his offer list:

On Tyrone Wallace (Bakersfield/ Double Pump)/ Holds Offers From: Gonzaga, Arizona St., Cal, Colorado, Florida St., Fresno St., Nevada, San Diego St., USF, UNLV and Utah

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Jun 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Longrus

He is a grinder…he is a 3/4 type at the college level. If he can expand his jumper to the outside, he can really be a special player. He is the type of hard-working and physical player every team needs and he can guard a variety of positions. However, you are not likely to get a full view of his game on a highlight video. Hopefully Zach and I get a chance to see him this summer and evaluate.

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Jun 9, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question on Point Guard

I see some of you think we are set at the point guard position and I am really curious why people think that. Marquise Carter graduates after this season, which leaves GBJ and Pangos. In all reality, GBJ is at his best as a combo guard, so I honestly only see one point guard on the roster that I think can maybe get Gonzaga to a Final Four, and I am nowhere near as high on Kevin Pangos as everyone else.

Therefore, with four scholarship openings, I would be surprised not to see the staff go after a point guard. Wallace is by all regards one of the elite guys out West and he fits into the longer and more athletic type recruit the coaching staff seems to be interested in.

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Jun 9, 2011 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh???

Letsssseee

We’ve got 13 scholarships.

There are 5 positions on a basketball team.

So . . . you probably don’t want more than three guys getting scholarships dedicated to a single position and indeed some guys have to play more than one position.

Next year Stocks will be a redshirt Soph

GBJ and Pangos are incoming Frosh

Last time I checked that makes three.

It may come to pass that GBJ plays mostly at 2 . . . or not. I dunno why you think he is best as a combo guard. I don’t think he played anything other than point on his HS and AAU teams. Indeed he’s not that tall for a 2 guard. Doesn’t really matter because if needed he can certainly play the 1 position.

I would also point out that KD played a little point guard as well. He reminds me of another guy with a similar skill set — Blake Stepp. Only the WCC player of the year as a point guard. But there is no way KD could do something like that . . . or could he? [dripping sarcasm]

Then there’s Sarbaugh — the mystery man. All we really know about this kid is he will play just about anywhere you ask him to play and he wins. Not a bad resume.

We are loaded at the guard positions for a very long time. CLT is right, we don’t need a project point guard — at least not one with a scholarship.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 9, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are missing my point

I’m not saying we don’t have point guards…what I am saying is that we don’t have any high quality point guards. Do you really think David Stockton can be a starting pg for an elite team? I certainly never did and this was only highlighted by his play against St. John’s in the NCAA Tournament. Kyle Dranginis is at least a couple of years away from being physically able to play at the DI level, and I don’t think he is a natural pg.

So as I mentioned before, that leaves you GBJ and Pangos. I think GBJ will be great, but I think that will be as a combo guard, just like he played for Seattle Rotary off of Tony Wroten. So at this point, that leaves Kevin Pangos. If you aren’t going to bring in a point guard in 2012, that must mean that Pangos is absolutely elite, which I don’t think he is.

As for Sarbaugh…he is a nice player, but lets not get pulled into the belief he is going to be a contributor anytime soon. If he was, he would have scholarship offers to some Big Sky and other WCC level type schools. I understand the familial pull he had to Gonzaga, and he is certainly an excellent player for a walk-on, but if I have to choose between Tyrone Wallace and Sarbaugh, I am going with Wallace.

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Jun 9, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

From what I've read

Wallace isn’t high quality. I’d rather go after a big then address the pg need next season with a bigger, better prospect.

The team has a lot of needs, and while pg is among them, it is not at the top.

by CLT_ZagsFan on Jun 9, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Use some Windex on that crystal ball

I guess we are all entitled to our opinions and sports boards like this are ground zero, but I wonder if it might be a good idea to consider that every one of the kids we’re talking about are probably reading this stuff.

For what it’s worth, I think we’re going to have the best group of guards in the history of the school this coming season and at least 2-3 years after that as well. It’s always a good idea to recruit the best available, regardless of position, but as far as the point guard position is concerned, I’m pretty sure we don’t need to recruit out of need.

by Zagfantoo on Jun 10, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Best group of guards in the history of the school?

Holy smokes, can I borrow some of the windex?

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by Zach Bell on Jun 10, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You may want to borrow my rose colored eyewear, as well

I rec’d the comment, because, hey, you never know..GBJ is as highly rated a recruit as we get (depending on the service),,, KD, well, we have a couple people on this site who have watched him more closely, and with more interest, than most, and they are real excited..
     You never know, you never know,, while “Best group of guards in history of school” may be overstating it,, the overall thrust of the post is definetely not out of line, even for hardline “homers” like us. JMO

by mattzag72 on Jun 11, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stocks may well start

. . . at least for a while.

With the departure of Meech, Stocks IS the only experienced PG on the team.

Yup, I think he is a better PG than Carter — although in all fairness, we didn’t see Carter play much PG so I could be wrong there.

Stocks may be displaced by some of the new guys as the year goes on . . . or not. I think Stocks may have something to say about the whole matter before its all said and done. I dunno about the rest of you but I saw some significant improvement in his game and he brings a lot of intangibles that other guys don’t give you. If allowed to play significant minutes I really do believe he will put up some impressive assist and steals numbers. That’s not to say he has enough to hold off the other guys looking for PT but then again, that will all depend on who is more effective on the floor, won’t it?

so, yeah, Stocks will be a starting PG on an elite team at least for a while — that is, if you consider GU to be elite.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 10, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold

I don’t know that he’ll be able to drastically improve his strength and quickness enough to be effective against upper level guards. A guy his height needs to be able to make up for it with speed, quickness, and craftiness (which he seems to have) a la JJ Barrea.

I think he’ll start over the freshmen, but I don’t think he’ll dominate the position’s minutes.

by CLT_ZagsFan on Jun 14, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

"high quality"

Sorry but I cannot leave this alone.

If you know anything about the history and traditions of the GU Basketball program you would know that we have had significant contributions from walk-on players in the past. Unlike some other schools, you can go to GU as a walk-on and work your way into a schollie and a starting position. It has been done before and it might well happen again in the future.

I dunno what you consider ‘high quality’. I’ve been following the program since 1984 or thereabouts. I have seen a lot of young basketball players come and go. Very few (if any) of these players were as good in their first year as they were in their last. I seem to be picking on Blake Stepp lately but he is a prime example. He was a much heralded recruit. You knew he was going to be good but you didn’t know how good. He was thrust into the lineup way too early in my opinion — sink or swim. Early on, Blake had his problems to be sure. Was he “high quality” in that first year? Maybe not. Then he got hurt but because we were so thin he continued to play — more experienced but hobbled. Was he “high quality” at that point in time? Maybe not.

My point is this. A highly skilled, experienced, Senior is “high quality” — probably as high as you are going to get. College basketball, by its very nature makes these kinds of players rather hard to get and they are very special when they come along.

Don’t go measuring Freshmen with the same yard stick. They may amaze and delight you with their rapid progress. BUT if they take some time to develop (like Mr. Turiaff for instance) that doesn’t mean they are not a ‘high quality’ player.

It’s easy to get spoiled with all those memories of Santangello, Stepp, Dickau, Ravio, Pargo, etc. But if you can remember back to when they were getting started, (Dickau couldn’t even get on the floor at UW), they weren’t nearly as good as when they played their last season.

I am guilty of getting frustrated with each of these players at one time or another. They didn’t always walk on water. Just the same, that doesn’t mean they weren’t “high quality” players.

You have to play they guys you have on the team at a given point in time. Don’t disparage a player because of his lack of experience, physical development, or developing skill set. All of these things can be improved as time goes by. In the end it has as much or more to do with the motivation of the player than anything else - and that inner drive is what makes a “high quality” player in my book.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 10, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

we probably had a bunch of walk-ons in 1984

what with Gonzaga not being very good and all. Maybe I’m blanking on someone obvious, but name one walk-on (prior to baby Stocks last year when our PGs melted) in the Mark Few era who made a significant contribution.

by Hoft on Jun 10, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Name one

Mark Spink — WCC defensive player of the year — one of those years he played. IIRC he was a walk on for 2 years and they broke through big time and became a starter. Everyone thought was was to skinny to be a legit player at the D1 level. IIRC he was 6’7" or 6’9" and weighed in at about 185. He showed everyone it isn’t the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog that counts. This guy had a lot to do with Gonzaga’s rise to prominence. IIRC we recorded wins over Stanford and UCLA that year — stunned everyone. A very big big player for the program.

Kyle Bankhead — 3 point specialist.

Wasn’t Floyd a walk-on at one point (played on the elite 8 team).

and let us not forget Mr. Rose — just last year.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 10, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Argggh, Hoft, why do you vex me so????

   Quid is spot on.. Floyd, though on the small side, and Bankhead, he of the not that quick feet, were everything perfect about GU basketball..local small town heroes, (well, Walla Walla isn’t THAT small), legends at their level, but neither was supposed to be a D1 player.
     Few believed in them enough to let them play, and all Floyd did was nail 24 three pointers in our best year, including 4 in the tourney itself Elite Eight run..Hey may have only scored 5 or so a game, but he was a solid part of the rotation,,same with Bankhead a few years later…
     Did you follow Zags in those years? Really, stats don’t tell the whole story, those guys were more than legit!

by mattzag72 on Jun 15, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know we are trying to move forward, and get better and better players

in our quest for the National Championship,,, but what makes GU the best, imo, is that Few will always allow for some scrappy underdogs to see the court, and we will be better for it.

by mattzag72 on Jun 15, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The second part of this I would be skeptical about, though,

and suggest that the scrappy underdog love (from fans) has more to do with nostalgia and sentiment than with what will actually win ballgames going forward.

by Hoft on Jun 17, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

"actually win ball games"

[bangs head on the desk]

Elite 8 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Defensive Player of the Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see that two of Louisville’s starters will be reverting to ‘walk-on status’ this year (which is where they started life on the team)?

Ya know, the majority of D1 football teams have a guy that starts for them that walked on. Some of these guys are pretty good. They win games. Why in the world can’t a walk on become a starter on a basketball team? The best player on a basketball team? Maybe even win some games for a basketball team?

I dunno where you got your prejudices. I would suggest you open your eyes and look around a bit.

I’m trying to be nice about this, I really am.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 18, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, nothing like a relatively purposeless argument to keep the blood flowing.

I’ll continue it!

First off: perhaps you yourself see the problem with comparing football walk-ons to basketball walk ons. For instance: rosters with what, 60 plus players, injuries galore, separate units for offense / defense / special teams… not exactly an eight-man rotation, is it?

I’d say my “prejudices” stem from having my eyes open, and realizing that for every one success story of a walk-on getting significant minutes, you have hundreds of walk ons on every team who never play at all.

One time I was walking across campus, and I found a ten dollar bill lying on the sidewalk outside of Jundt. It was great! I used it on a calzone. Sadly, most of my other walks never involve the discovery of money. So if you were like, “hey guys, let’s go stroll around and find some bills and have a party!” I would express skepticism. That’s the sort of logic I hear in your walk-on love: hey, it works occasionally! It’s like how people always talk about how Mike Piazza was drafted in the 59th round. He was, and about a million dudes who aren’t Mike Piazza who never made it past A-ball have also been drafted late.

As the old saying goes, “you can hope in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.” All I’m saying is, for every delicious nugget of walk-on gold you get, you’re also going to have a lot of not-much.

by Hoft on Jun 19, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

See no . . . Hear no . . . Speak no

Just because you would like the world to be the way you think it ought to be does not mean that is the way it works. I’d love to know where you get your ‘expertise’ when it comes to evaluating college talent.

Lets talk about a couple of walk-ons from last year:

Player A: Guard; 6-4 / 185; Best basketball advice given to him was “don’t be afraid to succeed.”; Walk-on as a Freshman; later awarded a scholarship

2008-2009 5.5 mpg 1.6ppg .9rpg .3apg
2009-2010 13.9 mpg 4.0ppg 2.5 rpg .4apg
2010-2011 28.0mpg 10.8ppg 3.9rpg 1.2apg

Player B: Guard; 6-2 / 200; Best basketball advice given to him was to “bring your game, not your name.”; Walk-on transfer who played two years at Manhattan College

Sat out 2009-2010
2010-2011 26.0mpg 9.4ppg 4.6rpg 2.5apg

So . . . big deal huh — nuthin all that great are they? Nope just two of Pitino’s starters at Louisville. Why did they walk on at Louisville? I suspect it was because they wanted to play for Pitino as much as anything else.

Louisville is a pretty good program last time I checked. Pitino is considered an elite coach last time I checked. The Louisville program has been at least as good as Gonzaga during Pitino’s tenure.

Kyle Kurik (player A) chose to walk on at Louisville over offers from several Mid-American and Valley conference teams as well as late interest from home-state Indiana.

Chris Smith (player B) (brother of Denver Nuggets guard JR Smith) had a lot of scholarship offers at other schools but chose to walk on at Louisville.

both of these guys were awarded scholarships last year. (kinda sounds like Stockton and Hart does it not?)

Neither of these guys will receive a scholarship this year. Pitino is using their scholarships for other recruits. Will these two play for Louisville next year? Probably. Will they start? That would depend on who performs best on the court — I suspect.

Hoft,

Every kid that steps on a college basketball court is nothing but a handful of hope. Scholarship or not.

“Bring your game, not your name”. Truer words were never spoken. Scholarships don’t score points. Scholarships don’t win games. No matter where a player starts, he still has to get it done on the floor.

There isn’t a college coach in the United States that will not take a chance on a kid that shows some promise if he is willing to walk on. It is true that some of these kids will never contribute significantly on the court. It is equally true that some of these guys will not only contribute but will make or break the program while they play on the team.

since you appear to be into ’old sayings, I have one for you:

“Never look a gift horse in the mouth”.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 20, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, sorry mz72.

Perhaps in my haste to attack quid’s irrational and outdated love of walk-ons, I threw Floyd and co under the bus. Your points are legit.

by Hoft on Jun 17, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bunch of walk ons?

IIRC there have almost always been 1 or 2 walk-ons. I may be wrong here but I think next year will probably be the year for the most walk ons we have ever had — maybe as many as 5. Some may be just practice players but . . . we have seen Stocks and Hart on the floor quite a bit. It may take him a year or two but I think Sarbaugh will also get some minutes before all is said and done.

It doesn’t matter where you start. What matters is where you end up. Just because a guy is hot stuff out of high school doesn’t mean he will start or even get on the floor. Likewise if one of your best 5 or 6 players walked on at some point does not mean he cannot contribute.

Hart in particular had scholarship offers from other schools. He wanted to focus on academics and didn’t want basketball to interfere with his academics. He is attending Gonzaga because of its reputation as a great academic school — not because he wanted to play basketball. Indeed, if Hart feels he needs more time for academics, I could see him leaving the team for that reason and that reason alone.

Back in the ‘good old days’ we gave scholies to guys with the type of talent that our present walk-ons bring to the table. That’s not a knock. Some of those guys worked pretty hard to improve but back then we just didn’t have the overall talent to compete with the best in the WCC.

mjc

by quidveritas on Jun 11, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some interesting comments here! Don't want to waste a lot of time here so........

ANYBODY, who believes Wallace is better now or in the future than KP, GB and KD at point guard must be either, his relative or agent! Don’t even worry about responding, you just would appear more unbelievable with each comment. You were joking……..right?

How can you possibly say out of one side of your mouth, that “Wallace” is a project player with upside but will be better than KP, KD or even CS and out of the other side infer that KP will not be elite or, reading between the lines, KD won’t be either? They’re not even at GU yet!

Well bloggers, these are the same guys who suggested the MM and MK were the top of the heap prior to them coming to GU. How’d that prediction go?

Spot on MD73, CLT and QV.

Geeeeeesh

by mikesequim on Jun 9, 2011 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing like a classy response to an opinion

Did we really say Keita and Hoff were top of the heap (I’m not sure how high the heap is, or what that means) before coming to GU? I remember being stoked about Keita and Hoff’s potential but don’t remember saying they were “top of the heap”.

My expectations for the 2011 class are:
GBJ: Potential starter next year
Pangos: Backup/3rd string PG next year.
Spangler: Hope he redshirts, could get a few minutes next year spelling Elias. A lot will depend on KO.
Dranginis: Redshirt
Landry: Impactful bench player. 15-20 mins a game.

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by Zach Bell on Jun 10, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy now...

Its ok for people to have there opinions Mike, thats what makes these discussions. You seem like the expert here??…..The truth is some of these players coming in will underachieve, some will over achieve, thats always the case, and every now and again GU gets a player that turns out to be a star when its not expected….So go easy on people merely forming there own opinions on here…

Saying that I appreciate reading your comments because your very informative with players coming from the west side, such as GB.

JSH

by scotthen49 on Jun 10, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair

I really didn’t get the feeling ZB was overly stoked for Hoff or Keita,,, these guys seemed like they came out of nowhere…
    My overall impression on this site was mild disappointment with the Euros, but looking for positives, like Keitas long arms and motor, and Hoff being a good shooter…and I believe the verdict is still out, on both of them, and personally believe at least one will more than pan out.

by mattzag72 on Jun 11, 2011 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tyrone Wallace

Just a guess on my part, but i think the coaches at Gonzaga want Tyrone Wallace to come to GU and play hoops. And i am sure many future recruits and family members of recruits come read this page. You all are free to express your opinions but some of you are just plain NASTY. Some student athletes have had a change of heart on what school they will attend because of forums like this. I would love for Tyrone Wallace to come to Gonzaga, he would be a Frosh and Pangos a Soph and Stockton a Junior. All NCAA Div 1 teams carry 3 PGs. TW is one of the Top PGs on the West Coast in 2012 we would be lucky to have him.

by ZagaZags on Jun 10, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

BS.

It would be almost unfathomably stupid to let some bozos on discussion boards affect where you’re going to play D-1 ball. I would wager that either A) it’s never happened, or B) the players in question weren’t mentally prepared for high profile athletics.

by Hoft on Jun 11, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I’ve never seen anything on this site that comes close to the kind of vitriol on other message boards for schools; aside from personal digs between users, I haven’t seen anything nasty written about players/potential recruits.

If a player can’t take people on a forum criticizing their recruitment, I don’t think they’ll be able to handle being in the spotlight in March.

by CLT_ZagsFan on Jun 14, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

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