Kelly Olynyk

Delicious pickled red herring. One of the go-to moves among Few apologists is “aw come on you just want Coach K well guess what he’s not available who do you think could do better blah blah blah.” I’m pretty sure there are quite a few talented young coaches who would jump on a job with the prestige and $$$ of Gonzaga. It’s not like Few’s the only guy who would ever take us to the dance.

I’m not calling for Few’s head, so don’t interpret what follows in that light, but it’s not like he’s done an awesome job lately at developing players or, I dunno, taking us deep in the tournament. And just invoking the name of Adam Morrison or WCC titles doesn’t make Few the greatest coach around.

Let’s look at this slightly differently. Rather than speculating on what other coaches could do for the program, let’s talk about Mark Few. Can he get us to a final 4? If you answer “Yes,” what are the reasons for your optimism?

If “No,” what are the reasons for not firing him and moving in a different direction?

He gave two examples of players who succeeded at Gonzaga and speculated that Mark Few made those players what they were. That may be true, but those aren’t examples of MARK FEW RULEZ!!! but rather just players who succeeded at Gonzaga. Why can’t I just offer my own Micah Downs and Andy Poling examples to the contrary? I suppose those guys just didn’t work hard enough? That seems to be the standard GUBoards retort. A guy does well and it’s because Few coached the hell out of him. He doesn’t and it’s because he just didn’t work hard enough.

I far from want Few replaced, but I’m pretty convinced he’s overrated. That’s been my stance all along and these transfers are just affirming that.

You, and the vast majority of commenters here, are as “bright” as us. The vast majority of commenters in the GU corner of the internet just don’t often act like it! Stupidity isn’t the problem. Laziness is the problem!

I have never claimed to be smarter than anyone on this site at analyzing basketball or anything else. All I have asked is for the reply button to be utilized, proper grammar, and for arguments to go beyond mere observations and feelings.

People who disagree with me about Mark Few, David Stockton, Mike Hart, and the meaning of transfers could very well be correct. Unfortunately for me, these people are either unable or unwilling (which I believe is more likely) to put the time into helping me understand why I am wrong.

Zee is no doubt still irritated by my reply of 7 days ago under the “your posterization here” fanshot, the string is pretty funny.
Bottom line, I think we are seeing a transition in recruiting to more athletic players and the staff has struggled at times identifying guys who can come in and succeed in the system.

but am unwilling to slap “great” on someone who hasn’t made it past the sweet-16, who always gets burned in the same ways (perimeter defense, weak in-game adjustments, a complete inability to diagram a play with under a minute and the game on the line), and who has recruits dropping like flies and a yo-yo rotation.

Especially from where we came mid-season to the end…he coached a team, but playing two RS frosh in crucial moments. You can make the arguement that he didnt’ develop the schollie players OR you can make the argument that he developed those RS frosh…whatever.

I know a good program when I see one…

And they also want you to communicate in a way that allows for them to understand what you mean.

It makes it hard to talk hoops when people don’t accept your hoop infallibility.

Hey Mike,

Who is the next big high-school hoops star that we can start tracking? I haven’t heard anything about GU pursuing anyone around here. Id kind of like for there to be someone to follow next winter. Kinda sounds like they are working California.

Might as well just get some shuteye. I’m as tired as a dead fish!

1 win…………….and 1 bowed tendon…….2 starts, ufffff.

I think TW is working on his Spanish “Rosetta Stone” dvd right about now…………or, he has someone else doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here’s the point I wanted to get across about that run: not that we haven’t been successful (we have), but that in four or five of those years we’ve SIGNIFICANTLY underachieved, and zero times (maybe once, if you count this past year) have we exceeded expectations. I’m not even asking for a National Championship, dammit. What I’m whining about is wanting, just for once, to actually make a deep tournament run and/or not get slaughtered because we don’t play perimeter defense. I really don’t think buying season tickets to EWU is necessary.

Losing Piniella had nothing to do with the Mariners going down the crapper: Bob Melvin managed them to the exact same record in 2003 that they had in 2002 (93 wins). Perhaps them becoming terrible had something to do with, oh I don’t know, terrible drafting, terrible player development, terrible personnel moves…

I think the George Karl example was also off-target — didn’t they replace him because of feuding? May they rest in peace, in any case.

I would just like for a Zags team with elite-8/final-4 talent to actually get past the sweet 16.

YES!!!!