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The STATE of Zags basketball...



Let's take a look back and assess what we have gone through so far this season, and then fantasize about where we can go.

  • February 8: 20-4 (7-1*, WCC)
  • Upcoming: vs SMC, vs SD, @LMU, @ Pepp, vs SC, vs USF

Before the games began we knew we had Matt, a bunch of question marks, and a mystery known as Steven Gray.  We had so many questions about our inside play and whether the lack thereof would allow a team (many thought Portland) to dethrone us and break up our string of dominance.  This idea was flipped on its' ear when we went to Michigan State and would have won by 20 with any experience.  Portland has looked like a team that went 9-5 in the WCC last year, and as good as SMC could be they are not deep enough to earn the hardware.

Our initial expectations deemed this a rebuilding year because of the talent we lost.  Some thought we were adding by subtraction, which could not be more true.  We have a team that is easily Sweet 16 quality, when a few months ago we were sweating making the tournament altogether.  The team has had great chemistry when they pretend they are unranked, so I will break it down...

Individual players:

  • Matt Bouldin: What can you say?  He is living up to expectations in every way, and amazingly, he actually seems to still be improving and adding dimensions to his game.  He is our half-court PG, and he is as good as there is in the country at finding teammates with his unbelievable floor sense.  Losing him will be brutal, but there IS NOT a better guard to sit behind and learn from.  Not John Wall, not Scottie Reynolds, not anybody.  His effect on this program will extend past his departure.
  • Steven Gray: Before the season the jury was out on the Bainbridge Bomber, but he has arrived.  He didn't look horrible early, but he was inconsistent and one-dimensional (like the majority of the WCC).  He has learned how to work his game outside-in, and with the way Steve and Matt have played together it has become extremely entertaining.  I was very passionate against calls for him to come off of the bench so Bol could start, and it seems like he felt the pressure and responded well while Bol started to miss everything.
  • Elias Harris: Easy E will end his NBA career as the best non-Stockton Zag ever.  This guy has brought so much excitement to this program, and is likely the difference between our unranked preseason expectation and our top 15 ranking.  He has brought a level of hustle we have never seen from a legitimate player at GU, as well as the best post skills Gonzaga has ever had without question.  In the past we have had a tendency to lay down and allow the offense to go dormant when things aren't clicking, but E will scramble for that rebound that is partly controlled by an opponent, creating extra possessions and points that we haven't earned in the past years.
  • Robert Sacre: Hmm...  The obvious positive is that he is a 7 footer, so he is very beneficial to us on defense.  His offensive game isn't bad, it is just spotty.  The first few games, he was getting one-on-ones a lot and scoring at will.  His jump hook was gorgeous early, but he hit a wall when he started requiring double teams.  This exposed his weakness in passing and ballhandling.  This was easy to see and is a problem for bigs everywhere, but he is so physically imposing and didn't seem to attack the tin like a guy his size should.  The good news: he seems to be catching on to it, and has gone up strong a lot in the last couple games (if you were wondering why we smashed UP and Memphis and lost to SF).
  • Demetri Goodson: Before the season, he wasn't much of a concern.  He looked great filling in for Pargo so we just assumed he would step in and take over the point looking like he did last year.  Oops!  Meech has shown some frustrating negative aspects to his game, all of which involve his offensive skill.  He has thrown up some awful bricks, left the ground with no targets in sight, and taken more than a few selfish drives to the basket with nothing in mind but 2 points.  But, as with Sacre, he is cutting the "me" part of his game and is feeling the results.  Meech isn't perfect and will still make mistakes like any PG, but early in the year it didn't look like he was even trying to get better, and now he is.  He's now more of a medium to run the offense through than a liability.
  • Manny Arop: Didn't know what we were getting into when he arrived, but he has proven to be a necessary part of the rotation.  He has shown he can tickle the twine from anywhere and he gives us a huge boost of energy.  He plays good defense on the 2-4 positions, and is as good a rebounder as there is in the WCC.  He is going to be the 6th man down the stretch, and he has earned the playing time.
  • Bol Kong: Came in with some big hype, but we have done a good job letting him prove himself before crowning him.  We learned from Austin Daye to make a guy actually prove himself before assuming all the hype is deserved.  There were calls for Bol to be the focal point of our offense over Steven, Matt, and Elias early in the year.  It is easy to say in hindsight that these ideas were probably influenced by some form of psychadelic drug and HS highlight tapes, but I claimed through and through that he is a great 6th man which I still stand by even though he is ice cold.  Let's just hope he catches fire right around early-to-mid March.
  • Kelly Olynyk: Kel has been appreciated for his hustle, which has compensated for his inexperience.  He is about as akward under the basket as Glenn Beck is in the presence of Sarah Palin.  It's pretty apparent that his struggles are all a result of youth, and that said he has done amazing coming off the bench.  Of course he's left us scratching our domes a time or two, but they are all youthful mistakes.
  • Grant Gibbs: In his first few appearances I wondered what he was doing on the court this year, but he can hit easy shots and control the ball, which is more than what we needed from him this early.  He is not a game breaker, but he shows some nice room for improvement with a good fundamental base.
  • GJ Villarino: Barely worth the mention as he is likely hitting the road, but who else thinks he could've earned substantial PT or started if he just wouldn't have been so selfish and ran the offense until he got a good shot?  He can obviously handle and shoot, but he tried to shoot too early in the shot clock.  He runs down the floor with a bunch of experienced players and pulls up for his own off-balance contested shot.  Go ride the bench somewhere else.
  • Will Foster: I was wrong.  I was wrong. I was wrong.  I am sorry, Will.  I dissed you so hard, I said: "...I hope he shuts me up." and he has!  His dunks and general offensive flow in Memphis after the FIST PUMP!!! free throw against UP proved he is not a joke like I said.   I was wrong.  He is an obstacle defensively inside, and he has discovered a "find me underneath" niche that has proven effective.  Awesome.

We have argued a lot about the proper rotation to use, and even with how much I have questioned Few I don't think he could make it more efficient than it is now.  This team is top-notch but the "loss" at USF has made us play with something to prove again.

So that's where we are as a team, hopefully the motivation remains strong.

Thoughts?...

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great post!

You pretty much nailed it, in my opinion.

I don’t know what to make of GJ at this point. It seems like you think he has the tools to run the point, but is overly selfish. Maybe I’ve missed some examples of the selfishness (if so, do point them out). From what I’ve seen, he plays very fluid and seems to know the game. Just needed to be brought back to Earth a bit.

In an ideal world, he would press Meech eventually to a situational defensive player role. I say ideal because I’m a relatively un-educated basketball fan (never played AAU or high-level competition) and I favor offense over defense.

What I really like about Gibbs at this point is his passing ability. Like any freshman he has his turnovers… but man, he can dish it out.

by GU.AmericasTeam on Feb 8, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm all about defense

Some of the D played by Gonzaga teams in the past few years has been disgusting so I’ve been enjoying this bunch recently. Steven and Demetri really focus on defense and Matt gets by alright. Rob has learned how to block a little better without fouling which is good to see.

I think Meech’s role as a starter is perfect. He comes out, pressures the opposing point guard, throws his body around and if he struggles offensively, he can come out. I think his impact on the game has really be overinflated by fans. He’s not the guy the offense goes through, he simply brings it past the timeline before giving it off to Matt or Steven.

Gibbs seems to be the guy everyone loves but aside from his passing, I still desire more from him. I think Meech and Grant could one day run a very potent back court but they’ve both got time.

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by Zach Bell on Feb 8, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not that I don’t appreciate good defense and get jacked up with a steal-break-away or pressuring the opponent into a shot clock violation. I liken it to a pitching sequence in baseball (which I did play and do understand). Your average fan knows a little about it, but doesn’t quite get it.

Beside that point, love reading this site to learn more about the game. I check in daily. Keep up the good work!

by GU.AmericasTeam on Feb 9, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Hard to argue with anything you say here, great post.

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by Zach Bell on Feb 8, 2010 1:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good post, well thought out

I just wish that GJ would get a shot. He was obviously a very good prospect in high school and has the talent to be a great college player, I feel like all he needs is a shot at some playing time. If he could use his speed to play some Meech defense it would be awesome to have a fresh pair of legs off the bench. Just needs time on the floor to learn how to run the offense and make good decisions under pressure.

by ZagsFanatic on Feb 8, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Was he starting to get the time

before he jacked up a bunch of long 2’s with 27+ on the shot clock without even looking for a teammate? Sad to see what we could be losing but he tried to come in and be a superstar right away, I think. He was just impatient from what I could see.

Hope he stays…

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by SoundPound on Feb 8, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

question in my mind is

where is the ceiling for meech compared to GJ? we have seen Meech show some improvement the last couple games, and obviously haven’t seen a lot from GJ.

is the general sentiment around here that GJ has the higher ceiling as an all around PG?

by GU.AmericasTeam on Feb 8, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually remember thinking that but the stats don't back up the argument

GJ was regularly getting over 10 minutes/game up through the end of 2009. Somebody who apparently has a personal relationship to GJ, memorial80, has informed us in another thread that GJ had some personal issues and an injury which have kept him out of the game for about a month. If you haven’t seen the thread it is worth a look: http://www.slipperstillfits.com/2010/1/24/1267259/no-playing-time-for-gj

A quick look at GJ’s stats seems to refute the idea that he is overly selfish, his FG% is around 46% and he was averaging one FGA for every 5 minutes of PT which is pretty much inline with what you would expect from a PG.

by ZagsFanatic on Feb 8, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good post

SP- I usually agree or at least am entertained by your posts. This one is no exception, but I thought I would add some thoughts since you asked everyone for them.

I don’t think we are quite top-notch, but to steal a Few-ism, we played pretty darn well last week. While we had a slow start at Memphis, we finally started playing good help defense, increased the intensity and pulled out a good win. That intensity is what we are going to need to play with the rest of the season to get that 4 seed in Spokane and hopefully make it a few rounds in the tourney.

A couple of observations on my part
- Meech has calmed down and played a little more under control, but his consistency to do that has not been established. Like SoundPound, I haven’t been the biggest Meech fan, but he wears a Gonzaga uniform so I am ALWAYS rooting for his success. While I think he would be better utilized coming off the bench, it’s obvious he is not losing the starting PG job. So, while I don’t agree he’s the guy to run the offense through, I am definitely fine with having to eat my words.
- I still think Sacre is the most important player for determining the Zags success in March. He has gotten more aggressive on defense over the last couple games, but he has to keep it up. He has perfected the art of going up weak on offense. He prefers the power dribble, fade away, or hook shot over keeping the ball high and slamming it down. He is still hesitating too long and allowing the double to come over instead of making an immediate move towards the basket. But, I know he has the tools to do it. When he becomes a significant part of the offense (see the whole Maui Invitational, Illinois, Memphis), we have a lot of success against the kind of teams we’ll see in March.
- Gray is my favorite Zag, but man is he a streaky shooter. Over the last three games, he is 8-31 on FGs and 50% at the FT line, but adds a lot more to the team than just his shooting. He had a great game last time vs. SMC, so hopefully he will get his touch back starting Thursday. While he has developed his ability to find a way to score more than just perimeter shooting, we have to keep in mind that he can go cold at any time. I just hope it’s not during the NCAA tourney.
- I just found out that 5 hour energy is made from wringing out the sweat from Manny’s towels at the end of every game. This kid is an X factor and should be the 6th man if not starting. I would say he is not just necessary, but essential to the rotation.

Not sure I agree that Few has finally found the most efficient rotation, but I’ve learned to let SoundPound and others do all the Few critiquing as it’s almost like questioning God when you question any decision made by Few. I will say when this team plays balls out and with a chip on their shoulder, it’s the most fun I’ve had watching the Zags in the past few seasons.

by BW2020 on Feb 8, 2010 4:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

to be clear

when I referred to Meech as a medium to run the offense through, I just meant passing and keeping the pace under control, when applicable. I could’ve phrased that better…

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by SoundPound on Feb 8, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

5 hour energy

that is HILARIOUS! I thought they had a new, more effective formula but now that I know I will have to try it.

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by SoundPound on Feb 9, 2010 9:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff!

The problem I’ve been harping on for the pre and whole season is the choice of terms for positions and the dropping in of names for those positions.

If most would just admit what each position is and what type of play and kinds of stats should go with those positions, We probably would be on the same page in most instances about the players. Example: Matt is our point guard, not Steven, not Meech. Thats a fact. In GU’s sets, Meech and Steven can and will start off the set depending on the call from the bench and in what sequences following options within those sets will be. The term point guard is too widely used here without actually applying the requirements that go with the position. That example is Meech or GJ. They are utility guards with fantastic defensive abilities by both and ability to run an offense IF under control. Not point guards. Is that petty? No, accurate. Getting a concensus on what point guards are required to be able to do is usually pretty easy and their stat lines are always the first marker for any coach.

Boy you sure did a good job of everybody, SP, lots of food foe thought. Nice job.

by mikesequim on Feb 8, 2010 4:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is the best Fanpost I've read

Very detailed, very accurate. Loved the blurb on Bouldin and how his impact to this program will be felt for years to come. His quiet leadership echoes through that locker room; and hopefully Meech, GG, and GJ listen and will follow suit.

I love watching a Top 25 Tournament Team every year!! Go Zags!!

by trufflshuffl on Feb 8, 2010 11:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That play was freaking awesome!

You know they practice those kind of plays during the week (especially after Steven tossed it to Lowhorn against USF) and Meech did a great job throwing it high and deep and away from the hoop.

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by Zach Bell on Feb 9, 2010 6:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

GJ

He did end up being the main talking point of the response to my post, but I didn’t intend for that. The good thing is that our biggest question mark is the 5th or 6th guy off the bench, lol.

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by SoundPound on Feb 9, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Truth^^^^

I like his ballhandling, I wouldn’t mind seeing it more often. I think he could turn out to be a star if he just runs the O and lets the game come to him.

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by SoundPound on Feb 10, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt just tweeted "FREE GJ!"

So…im not sure what that means

by AlwaysaZag on Feb 10, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kong seems to be lost sometimes.

It’s like he doesn’t know the offense yet, but you’ve got to remember that this is a complicated offense and it will take time for him to adjust. He came into the team late and cold and I think GG and GJ is also learning. It looks like Manny has caught on and is doing other things for us besides shooting the three, which he can do very well.

Kong seems to drift around waiting for the ball, then he’ll do one of two things. He’ll either shoot the jumper or try to drive to the basket. That’s it. Out on the wing, if he would put the ball on the floor (he’s shown that he can) and let the game come to him – let Gray or whoever is in the post to come out and set some screens, let him do some pick-and-rolls – I think he could be an awsome offensive threat. He just needs to get more involved in the offense.

Great post.

Tom117

by Tom117 on Feb 9, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bol

Has some scary development potential, he needs to take a page out of Steven’s book and focus on the outside-in game. He seems to be doing this, and as his foot speed picks up so will his stat lines Gray should be a reminder to shooters that come through GU that your shooting will look better if you aren’t putting so much on making threes. I love threes, but if you’ve played ball you know that specializing on one shot can lead to massive slumps and strekiness when you lose the touch periodically.

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by SoundPound on Feb 9, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to get off track here

I enjoy all the posts, but another great Zag just showed up in my pro shop….very nice to meet Richie Frahm!

by jomogolfpro on Feb 11, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Negative Comments

I never intended my comments toward the Gonzaga substititutes to be taken personally. My main point is always for us to focus on the big picture. I get really bored reading about my favorite team’s 9th and 10th men. When I watch the games I get as excited as anyone about significant bench contributions. Will against Memphis was jumping up and down exciting! Too many examples to list. I do stand up for Dimitri. I’m a coach myself, an ex-college player, and you can’t play up-tempo enough for me. Don’t worry, I’m also not the “I told you so” type person, when Dimitri matures into his body and becomes an accomplished college player. Imagine him soaring into the lane for soft, short jumpers. What if it even happens this year! Go Zags.

by MdZagFan on Feb 12, 2010 5:47 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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