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Postgame thread: Gonzaga-Memphis

I just wanted to set this thread up as a quick reaction option for all of you to share your thoughts about the Zags-Tigers game that just concluded..  Feel free to share your postgame thoughts and musings in this thread.  I'll be around at some point later on today/tonight to provide a more formal recap.

With that being said, the thread is yours to discuss all the happenings in the Gonzaga-Memphis game today at the FedEx Forum.

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Great Game

Nice to get another resume building win on the road. Might still get that #4 seed in Spokane.

Foster is…is someone else. Maybe a younger Bill Walton reincarnated!

Nice to see the Zags put that string of 8 straight free throws together in pinch time.

Bring on St. Mary’s!!~
 

Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~

by gaz-tastic on Feb 6, 2010 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

OK So if you have Bol Kong for President Zach can his running mate be Foster

What a refreshing site—- I hope the crowd gives him and Bouldin a 10 minute standing ovation on senior night—— Those two are stepping up as seniors in so many ways— it even lets you kind of forget that Gray again proved he just ain’t that good at the line when the game is on the line—— GO ZAGS

by vandyman on Feb 6, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

Bouldins probably jammin at Elvis Presleys old digs tonight!

Hope they all get some well deserved R&R time in Memphis.

Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~

by gaz-tastic on Feb 6, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

TCB

Beat Portland, the late game on Thursday, concludes at 10:30 pm, on the plane 11:30 am Friday for a Memphis bombing run, back on the plane. Taken Care of Business, great job ZAGS!!!!

by sereguy on Feb 6, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions  

SACRE!

If he could play as well as he did today consistently in the tournament then we have a good chance at making a deep run. Although he did have one stupid foul on the three point shot, I was glad to see him inside fighting for boards and getting some buckets when Harris was having an off night.

About Harris, he seems to really struggle against the bigger athletic guys. You don’t see those guys much in the WCC, and it showed today. Thankfully Foster has become a consistent contributor off the bench. I’m actually amazed i’m able to say that.

by rappell40 on Feb 6, 2010 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

Sleeping well in Florida!

Zag Man is in Florida this week and weekend…..so he stays up past 2 a.m. on Thursday night watching the Portland game…..which was well worth it, IMO. Today, he has a dinner engagement at 6 p.m., but the Memphis game was in the balance, and he ends up calling his friends and asked them to wait for 5 more minutes so he can see the end of the game….which again was well worth it! The Zags really looked like a mature team during the last 4-5 minutes of this game and that won it for them. Memphis is a very good and very athletic team. However, I felt our maturity and defense won this game for us. I’ve been really impressed with how the Zags have played defense in these past two games, as they remind me of the team that played so well in Maui! Matt played his usual solid game and made the big free throws at the end. He certainly would be deserving of winning the WCC POY because of his consistency throughout the season. Will Foster, IMO, played his best game of the year and was steady throughout! Congratulations to Big Will! Finally, Rob Sacre played big tonight and was a difference maker in the paint! He scored, rebounded, and defended like the big-time player he will become!

I think the thing that impressed me the most in this game was the calmness of our players during those last couple of minutes. The Zags made their free throws, made the defensive stops, and then executed on the offensive end. To me, they looked like a nationally ranked team tonight! I don’t think there are a lot of teams in the country that would want to face the Zags in the NCAA Tournament on a neutral court! Zag Man will sleep well in Florida tonight!

by Zag Man on Feb 6, 2010 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

Road warriors

They win big games on the road with no rest. You have to do that to have a deep run in the tournament. The first two games in Spokane as the 4 seed would be nice, but I am comfortable with this team on a neutral court.

Foster was the key player tonight. He had 8 points and that was the winning margin. I get the impression that he has some more, you know, he has more gas pedal left. He hasn’t shown his full ability. What a surprise he’s been the last two games.

Tom117

by Tom117 on Feb 6, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions  

Great game!

I thought Sacre played well, and I can’t even tell you how excited I get to watch Foster play (words I never thought I’d say)!

I really really love watching Bouldin & Gray….not sure what the final stats are but as they go, so go my emotions during the game.

If they [the Zags] could have only one quality, the quality to be able to win is not a bad one ~ Mark Few, 2005-2006

by allrachel on Feb 6, 2010 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

Twin Towers

Will & Rob played awesome tonight. Bouldin was solid and consistent, as usual. Elias struggled, but never let up made a key basket late, I like the fact he still wants the ball at the end of the game even on a bad night. Meech another solid defensive performance, with great ball control. I would like to have seen him continue the fast break to ice the game but he was clutch at the line late when it counted. Good thing Few didn’t listen to me and others. I do not think he is so a true PG, so much as he is ball handler & defensive specialist. Bouldin is the one who directs the team w/ or w/o the ball. Should his FT% improve teams will be less likely to collapse on him inside the paint. Steve w/ another clutch three late to give us the lead, it seems to be either him or Matt each night.
Manny being Manny!
Foster being Bill, okay a little stretch, after all he is three inches taller, (pun intended).
Best game of his career, difference in the game as far as bench play is concerned.
KO w/ another up & under move to the basket.

Enjoy this one Zags you earned it!
Kennel & Players, I just know you are fired up!
Study, cite your sources on those papers, and prepare for St. Mary’s to meet their doom!

by rnpljnsn on Feb 6, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

should Demetri's FT%

improve opponents will be less inclined to foul him, I made an addition in the middle of my train of thought.

Passes were excellent, the team, including Foster are expecting those tight & close passes from Matt inside now.
I was critical early in the season as it created a lot of turnovers, but now the chemistry is growing!
Matt to Rob, Meech, & Will under the basket led to easy points; Steve to Matt cutting to the basket.
I really enjoy watching those two cut to the hoop for two and a foul 2-3 times a game.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 6, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

We did it!

After four years

Supporting the Giants, Niners, Sharks, Warriors, Golden Bears and Zags since 1987

by objesguy on Feb 6, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

Top 4 seed

We proved we are worthy, on the road even.
Our resume is one of the best.
Has there been a team all season that has had the road trips Gonzaga has had.
We know those Blue eyes wouldn’t travel to Alaska for an Iditarod shootout.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 6, 2010 8:33 PM PST reply actions  

Good day for GU!

Great game @ Memphis, OU beats Texas, Illinois beats MSU and BYU loses. What more could you ask for?

by ZagsFanatic on Feb 6, 2010 9:19 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but...

We’ve got serious problems with too much depth in the 1-3 slots. Few feels like he has to play Bouldin 37+ minutes a night and Gray needs to be about the same. This leaves just Meech’s spot for any real flexibility to rotate Kong, Arop, Villarino and Gibbs into the game. That is 5 good, young players to compete for about 46 minutes a night. None of them are getting consistent opportunities to show what they’re capable of and develop. It has to be affecting all of their confidence.

Look at Gibbs’ line over the previous 2 games:
32 mins, 4/9 FG, 2/2 FT, 1/2 3’s, 11 pts. 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 TOs.
The game before that he played 2 minutes against SCU.
The game before that:
17 mins, 3/5 FG, 2/4 FT, 8 pts, 6 rebs, 1 ast, 1 TO
The 5 games before that, a combined 2 minutes.
Today:
0 minutes, and 1 post game tweet: “What a great seat I had at the game today! First class treatment!”

Arop, Villarino, Kong all have similar stretches throughout the season. It’s not good for the development of any of them and will end up costing us down the road.

Just my 2 cents, take it for what it’s worth (1 cent on the open market).

by zag08 on Feb 6, 2010 10:57 PM PST reply actions  

Your two cents is a Gold Dollar!

I would add: Why does coach few play Matt the 39.5 min.per game roughly since 2 games after his concussion? Why Does he play Steven all those extra minutes? The answer is very obvious and your right, it’s confidence but not theirs, HIS! It’s called floor leadership and the other 3, Grant, GJ and Meech only show a glimpse on a rare occasion. Grant appears to be capable but needs to cut out the fancyness and improve his ball handling. GJ is just not what they hoped for and Meech is possibly the best man up defender west of the Rockies but like GJ doesn’t have the understanding of the position. Thats not a knock, just a fact and GJ and Meech’s stats prove that along with just watching their games. Coach Few knows that. Thats why Matt and Steven get 75-80 min. between them!

Great post, great PU with your observation. Don’t sell yourself short, next time hold out for more on the open market, LOL.

by mikesequim on Feb 7, 2010 7:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Just want to let everyone know

I’m in the mountains of Colorado for the weekend. I’m going to try and hop on a computer to tie this thing together but I urge you to keep chatting in this thread.

In my view it was the biggest win of our season. Hostile crowd, questionable calls, and a team that really NEEDED this win. I don’t care what you say about talent and coaching questions, you know this team knew they had to beat Gonzaga to get into the big tourney. Those desperate teams are the hardest to play against because they feed off everything. I’m so proud of the much-maligned guys like Meedh and Rob that really just played gutty late in the game. If Steven, Matt, and Elias are our rocks, than Meech and Rob are the wildcards and are gaining confidence at this crucial moment.

I can’t say enough about Matt Bouldin and Mark Few. If Few is not in the convo for coach of the year there is something stupidly wrong with our system. As for Matt, he was picture perfect. Big shots, big free throws, and he had that look in his eye like he wasn’t going to let Gonzaga lose this game.

We all thought a seed in Spokie was out the door but with Oklahoma an Wisconsin gaining steam… The Gonzaga resume looks better and better each day.

The Slipper Still Fits - SB Nation's home for the Gonzaga Bulldogs!

by Zach Bell on Feb 6, 2010 11:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

By Meedh

I mean Meeeeeeeeech!

The Slipper Still Fits - SB Nation's home for the Gonzaga Bulldogs!

by Zach Bell on Feb 6, 2010 11:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey Zach

I hear that maybe Will could come back for a 5th season. Is that true? and would he want to come back if that was the case? I would like to see what will could do with 1 more year.

by ZagaZags on Feb 7, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Bouldin's stat line

10/4/3/1 (cool) – but the impressive part is the zero TO’s. For as much as he handled the ball in a hostile environment and quick turnaround game (time-wise), that is really impressive. One other note was Sacre at the start of the second quarter – I know they were feeding it to Harris, but Sacre had his back. He always seems to do better crashing the boards than getting it fed inside to him.

Bouldin’s 0 TO’s is the standout note of this game to me though.

by Jerikantilles on Feb 7, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Good for them!!!

I am very happy for the zags. They are a young team that now has to rise to the level of the WCC. From here on out they will have to face teams with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Besides St. Mary’s, No team from the WCC has chance to to make it to the big dance. Every team that play’s the Zags, it’s there super bowl if you will. There big dance. Can they match their intensity? They have gotten up for most of the big games and tripped on the games that they shouldn’t have. If they can win out through the WCC Tournament, They have great chance for a high seed close to home. With all the teams around them dropping off they have a real chance. GO ZAGS!!!!

by bmd23red on Feb 6, 2010 11:59 PM PST reply actions  

Five at Home

two on the road (LMU & Pepp), Bakersfield a nonconference tournament tune-up since the WCC tourney is so early.
 I do see the WCC getting three in as Gonzaga is now a lock, barring a seven game losing streak; St Mary’s is in (before a second Pac -10 anyway) even if Zags sweep, as long as the Gaels win all other regular season games remaining as they would be 24-4.
Which means a conference tourney upset could lead to a 3rd WCC team.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 7, 2010 12:33 AM PST reply actions  

3 in the post season

SMC needs a signature win. I bet they’re kicking themselves for not playing BracketBuster this season – they could REALLY use it about now. Unless they beat GU on Thurs or in Vegas, I doubt they make it, though I think they’re certainly as good of a team as any that will be in bubble consideration (and possibly better than several that actually make it like they were last season). I’d like to see them make it, honestly, but I just don’t see it happening. UP has absolutely no shot unless they win the conf tourney, which I’m not sure I see happening.

I do hope that we see 3 WCC teams in the post-season, though – I think both SMC and UP have a very strong case for making the NIT. SMC is practically a shoo-in IMO if they don’t make the NCAAs.

by Nevtelen on Feb 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Elias looking like Peyton

or would that be Drew.
Watched the game again (had it tivoed), even though his shot was off he fed Sacre, Goodsen, Bouldin, Gray, and Foster for easy pts in the paint or wide open 3’s.

Rob’s 3pt the hard way was awesome, I believe he is back, with a vengance and an intent to prove he could be the go to guy if needed.

Elias has been quiet points wise, but just like Manny finding other ways to contribute, which will elevate him into an even more dangerous player in the tournament and next year.

Matt arguably the most consistent (on the positive swing of the pendulum) player in college ball.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 7, 2010 12:41 AM PST reply actions  

NBA & Europe snatches

Bouldin, Foster, & Elias

we would still have:
Gray (Sr.), Sacre (Jr), Goodson (Jr), Olynyk (Jr), Arop, Kong, Gibbs all sophmores, and some kid who’s father leads the NBA in assists and a few other prospects.

Gonzaga just reloads!

These guys will have tournament experience come November, for now all that matters is
St. Mary’s.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 7, 2010 12:46 AM PST reply actions  

Olynyk is a freshman this season. Also, don’t forget about Dower, who only gives the post rotation more (hopefully) quality depth.

by Nevtelen on Feb 7, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

knew that

I typed in wrong order, that is what I get for typing at one in the morning. I had Kong & KO reversed.

by rnpljnsn on Feb 8, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT A DAY FOR GONZAGA BASKETBALL!

*Great road win in hostile territory! Hey- shouldn’t the 30 year old coach in diapers have to pay his dues. After his tirade, the refs made “make-up calls”. Should have been a T and the Zags would have put the game away.
*Oklahoma home big.
*Illinois had a huge win.
*BYU got pummeled.
*Wake Forest is playing better.
Let’s get that seed in Spokane.

by MdZagFan on Feb 7, 2010 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

It was supposed to be a Christmas present for a family of 6. I pushed my way in, lol!

And now one of the tickets is MINE…I am not a season ticket holder but do make it to most home games. Lucky to have a few contacts and a wallet with some money in it!

Now, if only the Zags play in Spokane. Cross my fingers.

5th row? Wow! Great seats those will be…I usually am in lower sections at the MAC and sometimes on the floor…GO ZAGS!

Its gonna be gLoRiOUS!!~

by gaz-tastic on Feb 7, 2010 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Win!!!

I think we accomplished alot winning the Memphis Game.
We held or improved our NCAA Tournament seating position.
We held on to “controlling our own destiny” as to our final conference standing.
And we did it with other team members stepping up.
Matt with his usual great game!
Good game for Meech!!
Great game for Rob!!!
We needed that!
Lets just focus on one game at a time.
Go Zags

by Teacher56 on Feb 7, 2010 9:03 AM PST reply actions  

Bol Kong is really struggling offensively, I would say he has hit a wall, he just needs to be more aggressive

by mystro88 on Feb 7, 2010 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Hard nosed.

In the first half Grey drives the lane and goes up for a dunk and is solidly rejected. He keeps possesion of the ball, gets trapped underneath, looks out to the key and makes a long pass out to Bolden at the top of the key. Bouldin cooly lets fly a jumper for three points while the shot clock buzzer goes off.

They took the punch and didn’t even flinch, then punched back.

Tom117

by Tom117 on Feb 7, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Amazing tenacious team

Steven, Demetrius, Matt, Elias, Will, Rob all did what it took to win. It is fun to watch a Zags game not know what the end result is going to be. Kind of like the Zags of 1999. The older teams just kept cutting wood as Few is want to say. That is what happened in Memphis. This next Thursday will be very interesting.

by zag4Mary on Feb 7, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

not to be a downer, but

we aren’t in spokane yet and St Mary’s is coming at maybe the right time for them – everyone is caught on the high of winning at Memphis, and they need to win in an impressive fashion. All this staying in Spokane talk is still way too early

by Jerikantilles on Feb 7, 2010 8:44 PM PST reply actions  

Never

Will we ever overlook St. Mary’s…especially considering how much we both need this game, and how much we despise Samham. The team will be ready to play and put on a show for the Kennel.

Zagnificent - GU Class of 2011

by Zagnificent on Feb 7, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Rob's 3-point foul

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but can someone explain why Sacre got called for a foul when he tried to block that 3-point shot? I watched it a few times, and there’s no way he made contact with the Memphis player until after the ball left his hands. Is it still a foul if you hit somebody after they’ve made the shot?

Clearly, I’m more a fan of basketball than a player of the sport.

by Nadingo on Feb 8, 2010 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

Yes it is still a foul

It can be a judgment call as to whether he was in the act of shooting or no but no question that was a foul.

mjc

by quidveritas on Feb 8, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

hmmm

Yeah I didn’t get to see any of the replays…but from my vantage point it definitely didn’t look like a foul…but I will defer to you since you were able to see it.

by AlwaysaZag on Feb 8, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the response.

Just to be clear, though. If an offensive player lifts up his arms and takes a shot and THEN is hit in the arms by a defender after the ball is no longer in his hands, that counts as a foul? That doesn’t really make much sense to me.

by Nadingo on Feb 8, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what the official rule is but you see that call all the time. If a guy gets bumped after the shot is in the air, while he’s still holding his follow-through, it’s nearly always called.

by Nevtelen on Feb 8, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

i Agree

I was at the game and that call just looked like complete BS…I mean he fell down WAYYYY after he took the shot.

by AlwaysaZag on Feb 8, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

excellent win

Excellent win for the Zags and by winning by 8, I think that we put ourselves in a good position for the stretch run. How come Gonzaga has figured out what the Pac-10 teams haven’t, which is to schedule a bunch of tough non-conference road games and win a few of them?

Josh Normand

by Jmnor8 on Feb 8, 2010 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

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