My views and thoughts from Section 116: St. Mary's edition
Thanks to the fine people of Spokane, I was able to snag a ticket to the game last night and see the Zags in person for the second time this season. While I wasn't able to sit in press row (strange how University of Portland will allow this site media access, yet Gonzaga University won't....kinda ridiculous. Can someone please explain how any institution has a no blog media policy? Especially a blog that has to be approved for its content and quality to be part of SBNation? Consider this rant over), I had an excellent seat in Section 116, which presented me the opportunity to see the spacing in the offense, and zone in on a few select guys that I really wanted to watch and focus on.
Before I get into my evaluation and the things I saw, I first want to applaud and give some praise to Omar Samhan. I know the guy has been a terrific villain for the Kennel Club and all Gonzaga fans to hate, but that kid is an excellent basketball player with a terrific work ethic. His skill set in the paint is the best I have seen from any big man this side of DaMarcus Cousins, and seeing him improve over all four years is a truly great accomplishment.
I also want to give a big round of applause to the Kennel Club for their performance last night. The buzz and atmosphere around the arena when I was walking around campus during the day was tremendous. In the arena, the Kennel Club was loud and into the game for all 40 minutes (I adore the "Spokane hates you" chant towards Omar). Equally impressive was the fact that the entire crowd was into the game, with numerous standing ovations and seemingly everyone in the arena screaming at the top of their lungs and on their feet. I had the pleasure of sitting a couple of rows in front of the St.Mary's contingent, and to watch them just go quiet and look so miserable during the final 15 minutes was an awesome experience.
As I stated the last time I did something like this, I feel you learn and understand a team in a whole new way when you see them in person. When you watch a game on television, you only see what the camera shows you and not what is going on away from the ball or during timeouts. I think last night was the perfect game for the relationship between myself and Mikesequim to develop (just messing with you Mike...you know I respect your opinion). Both Meech and Matt were brilliant, and I continue to maintain that everyone on hear who bashes on Meech would change their tune if they could see the team operates in person with him.The thing I love about Meech last night was that he asserted himself early and made himself a threat on the offensive end. He shot 4-5 from the field, with the one miss being a heave at the end of the shot clock. Meech did an excellent job of controlling the tempo and knowing when to push the tempo. Another aspect of his game that I appreciate as a former point guard is how he allows the secondary break to occur. You will notice in the past couple of games that Meech hasn't been in a straight line from baseline-to-baseline. He now is doing an excellent job of allowing the big man (Sacre, Harris, or Foster) to get down the court, and then he reads how the defense is set. On at least five occasions, he kept his dribble and then found a seam to attack the rim or drive and kick to the perimeter. It was excellent point guard play. I think we also need to point out the defensive job he did on Mickey McConnell. McConnell came into the game averaging 13.2 points and 5.2 assists. Last night, McConnell scored 0 points and dished out three assists. Big cheers to Meech! Steven Gray must also receive major props for his defensive performance on Matthew Dellavedova. Gray did an excellent job of being physical and not allowing Dellavedova any room in the second half. One of the better individual defensive performance I have ever seen by a Gonzaga player.
One thing that I believe Matt does better than any guard in the country is change his tempo and pace with the ball. His ability to lull the defender into a moment of laziness, and then blow by for a layup, or get up an uncontested shot is extraordinary. Matt is doing an excellent job of getting to the lane, and the only thing I would critique from his performance is the fact that he took six three-pointers. Matt is nearly unstoppable when he gets into the paint or gets in the post. I think the ideal night for Matt is about four three-pointers, with the other two shots being in the paint or at the rim. Also, there is no chance that Matt only had four assists last night. If this was an NBA game, Matt would have been credited with seven assists by the end of the night. With the way the offense was executed and how the team played in the second half, no one can tell me with a straight face that the team only had 10 assists. In conclusion, it was just another excellent performance from Bouldin.
The other huge development I got from last night is the fact that there are three guys off the bench that can have a huge impact. I think we can now expect energy and contributions from Foster and Olynyk every game. Also, we can expect contributions from Manny Kong or Bol Arop. What I mean by that is that each game, either Manny or Bol will give a spark or excellent performance off the bench. I really think that the coaching staff just plays it game-by-game to see which guy is going to fit into the flow and make a big contribution. It has been Manny the previous four games or so, but last night it was clearly Bol. The staff has clearly been emphasizing aggressiveness from Bol, and from the second he stepped on the court, he was looking to drive and looking to shoot. I also couldn't be more impressed by the defensive strides he has made so far this season.
Now that the praise has been given, it's vital to emphasize this is a far from perfect team. One of my big issues has been how this team is starting games. While they may be able to fight back from 8-10 point deficits against the WCC and Memphis, for this to be a Final 4 caliber team, which I think is possible despite what some other people have written in the comment section, slow starts must be avoided. Teams like Georgetown, Villanova, Kansas, and Kentucky won't allow you to comeback from an early deficit. While it doesn't seem like a big deal currently, I think that will be a point of emphasis from the coaching staff the rest of the season.
This team must also continue to improve. Unlike many of the recent squads we have seen at Gonzaga, this group is nowhere near their ceiling. Guys like Meech, Rob, Kelly, Manny, and Bol can still continue to elevate their game and bring so much more to the table on a consistent basis. The key for the coaching staff is to make these guys realize how good they can be if they each continue to individually improve on both ends of the court. As we have discussed before, many previous Gonzaga teams have peaked in November and December. This group is completely different, and still has much to improve on before the NCAA Tournament. If the staff can get this message through, and each practice and game leads to improved play and chemistry, this will be a scary team in the Big Dance.
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Good point about the Kennel Club
they were on point last night, but the other side of the lower level looks like a bunch of cardboard cutouts. Shame on them, get off your asses and support your team! There are 1,000’s of people in this town that would give up a lot to sit down there just once. It’s absolutely infuriating. If you can’t stand up at any time but a timeout, watch the f*cking game on tv!
I still think the fact that they made the K2 only have a 6,000 capacity is a slap in the face to the city of Spokane. They basically said if you’re not a student or a booster you aren’t good enough to sit in this building. I should hate the GU basketball program because they hate everyone who didn’t go to school there, but they are from Spokane so I love em anyway. Love the team, hate the exclusionary nature!
Welcome to the Sound Pound...
Kennel Club and the size of the Kennel
I agree with you and EDZ that the KC seemed to really have the student section really pumped up last night. I wish they would post some cameras on the opposite side of the arena from the student section. It would be great to see some game play in front of the students who are contributing a large part of the Kennel atmosphere. Only reason I think this hasn’t happened yet is that the team benches are opposite the students and the cameras need to show the benches throughout the game.
I’m not quite sure the 6,000 capacity was an intentional slap in the face, I just think it was insanely poor planning. Having been a student of the GU business school, we reviewed the strategic business plan for the current term (through 2012, I believe). With the plans to expand the student body each year, it would make sense to think about the potential attendance needs in the future. It was already difficult enough to get a ticket when I graduated in 2007 with undergrads totally less than 6,000, I can’t imagine how difficult it will be for students to get a ticket with undergrad population nearing 10,000.
The only reason for keeping the Kennel small is to keep it loud and retain some of the old feeling. As the ’dog grows, so must the Kennel. Needs to accommodate students and fans.
by GU.AmericasTeam on Feb 12, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
It's more of a social status section, same as it is in most NBA arenas.....
Being a season ticket holder for the Blazers, I have also noticed the best seats in the house are occupied by people who don’t stand up and be crazy. The loud fans are generally in the upper deck sections. The high dollar seats (which are what you see on tv) are not generally going to be filled with younger, high energy fans. That demographic typically doesn’t make near enough to buy those.
It has been this way since the very first day in K2, which I was there for. It’s not going to change anytime soon, as those tickets will be gobbled up before they are ever released again.
The size matter was pure economics….If you keep the supply short, there will always be a demand, whether you are the 3rd best team in the country (05-06) or unranked (06-07). Always sold out. I do give them credit for accomodating Spokane with generally the best “home” game all year at the Arena and accomodating the Seattle/Portland base with the Battle. In my opionion not a slap in the face to Spokane at all, just a brillant marketing move to keep their product #1 in the Spokane high dollar market.
Good point
However, the more notoriety the program (and school) get the more students will want to come to GU. I think that is a great for the university. I also believe attending as many bball games as possible is an integral part of the GU experience. 6,000 seats and doubling your student body over 6 years is going to make that difficult for the students to experience.
Just my thoughts.
by GU.AmericasTeam on Feb 12, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
I completely agree it's part of the experience...
When the administration created the Strategic Plan it was used to capitalize on the popularity of the basketball program and to use this new influx of money and put it toward raising the academic side of things too. Great, great idea and will help us alums down the road as our degrees become more prestigious. However, there was also another side of the strategic plan. Private schools saw the economy bombshell before the general public. They saw a trend of students going for less expensive options (state’s, juco’s). All private schools are fighting over the same demographic, which is a relatively small one on the West Coast. They want to grow and they wanted to grow quick, but they didn’t want to “over” grow and be left with empty seats in the classroom or empty seats at the arena. It’s relatively easy to forget GU was fighting for their financial lives in the late 80’s, early 90’s.
So what I think is that the Strategic Plan used the basketball team to help grow the university, but on the athletic side of things they saw they the 1,200 students tickets as just what they are: 1,200 student tickets. Doesn’t matter to them if it is the same 1,200 or a different 1,200 each time. It’s kinda depressing for former students who had the ability to go to every game with relative eaze, but it is now the reality that a big time national program and their fan base faces.
Second that
I went to essentially every game as a student, and now that I have graduated, I make it to one or two a year and always have to be away games. I would LOVE to be able to go back to the Kennel – except I think i would be majorally disappointed if I couldn’t sit in the student section, so maybe it’s a good thing I can’t get a ticket there! Plus, I could probably go to more games if I didn’t move across the country – but still it is tough when you used to get to go to every game and now you barely see any :(
Agreed about the crowd not standing, but
it’s a little silly to rant against GU for the size of K2. It was a $$ issue – GU doesn’t get any subsidies or help from the government like state schools do and had to pay for the whole arena themselves. My understanding (of seeing this whole issue rehashed in various places every year) is that even adding a couple thousand seats would have exponentially increased the price tag, which wasn’t feasible.
Not that I’ve been to K2 in a few years except for the blue/white scrimmage, but it just seems like you get a lot of people who are there to see and be seen and done care much about the game. I think the fact that a lot of businesses and organizations have tickets has a lot to do with that, but I don’t really know what the %s are.
Money not exclusion
It is about the money not about keeping people out. It would not make sense to build a 10,000 arena as it would not get filled every game. Building K2 the size it is was a risky investment. No one expected this much consistent success. If the success disappeared then Gonzaga would be left with a huge building which lost money. Thankfully as an undergrad about to get a degree, it looks like the degree will be worth more in the future. Talking to one of the Jesuits, I found out they originally wanted to make the gym only about 4,000. Few supposedly talked the administration into asking the McCarthy’s to fund a 6,000. Turns out he was right.
I always heard it was tough to get general tickets because people who originally invested got a large portion of the tickets for a set period of time (heard seven years), and they still get first bite when they are available.
In regards to the cut-outs
That is something that has always bugged me – the location of the public and student section seating. It would look so much more intimidating and intense on TV if the student section was facing the camera. Just something to complain about on my end.
However, feeding off of intensity, Gray played out of his mind defensively. Like EDZ said in the post, “Gray did an excellent job of being physical and not allowing Dellavedova any room in the second half”. It was nice to see the refs let a lot the ticky-tack fouls go. I remember one or two on ball fouls called above the line, but I more than okay with that if Gray plays that kind of up in your face D every night.
EDZ
What can I say? Your spot on with this game! Only thing I would add on Matty, was his “D”, it was pretty good for him. Good piece of writing. Better piece of analyzing.
Gray's shot
Does anyone here have any idea, or any inside dope, on what’s up his shot? It seems to have gotten worse over the years. Is it just a matter of not practicing enough?
Nothing wrong with his shot per se
When a guy expends huge amounts of energy on defense it does have an impact on his offensive game. Legs are an important part of any shot.
Also, have you seen SG’s upper body lately? Pumping a lot of weights will also affect your shot. I had no touch at all after lifting the day before.
You can win a game one of two ways — score a lot of points or — keep your opponent from scoring. They both work.
In the end the ‘W’ is more important than individual statistics.
mjc
Steven
Also, I’ve NEVER seen a pure shooter ever get back the “Feel” for the shot after a broken shooting hand. Shooting touch is a gift, like playing the piano. The mechanism is just not the same. JMO
Let's start the tournament....now!
I love reading your insights Everydayezag; obviously you know a lot about basketball and assessing the performance of players. My only experience with basketball was intramurals at GU and some class league games in graduate school. I’m certainly not a basketball player….but I am a big fan and love to watch "good" basketball being played. And, IMO, this team is really starting to play "good" basketball.
To me, it starts first with the defensive intensity and rebounding. Every team that has won the national championship has a great defensive epicenter, and I believe this team has that same quality. It showed itself in Maui and early on in the season, and then, for some reason, it seemed to disappear. When the Zags don’t have their defense working well, they struggle and they let lesser teams "stick around" and gain confidence. You could see that @ Portland and @ St. Mary’s, and we definitely saw it @ USF! However, you certainly didn’t see that in the last 3 games, in which the Zags were awesome and come home with big wins! A championship team can play in any condition and in the NCAA Tournament a championship team will have to win when their offense is not in "high" gear. That "championship" teams will win that game even when they score in the 50s or 60s, because they will keep the other team from scoring as well. That’s why I have high hopes for this team and has said in the past in this blog that I’m as excited about this year’s team as I was for the Morrison and Batista team that should have gone to the Elite 8, but just couldn’t stop UCLA. I sincerely believe this team, in that same game would be able to stop that kind of run by a team, because they can defend, rebound, and they have a scrappiness that’s been missing from former recent Zag teams. The GU team that went to the Elite 8 and lost to U Conn, the eventual winner, had that scrappiness and attitude….that’s why they went so far. This team has, IMO, more talent than that team but the same intangibles as that team. I hope we see "the team that played in Maui and in the last 3 games" in the WCC Tournament and again in the NCAA Tournament….because it’s going to be FUN!
by Zag Man on Feb 12, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yahoo Power Rankings!
Should include more than Elias, Bouldin, & Few after Sacre & Gray’s performance. I think they just focus on offnesive stats though which is a shame.
Bulldogs keep up the D, Gray, Meech, Sacre, Foster & Arop have shown solid leadership in.
Whitworth Pirates domination to commence in 38 minutes gotta go!
Fantastic Game!
I was there and loved every minute of it! I have a new appreciation for how stingy Gray and Meech are on defense when in at the same time. The offense has no choice but to go inside because they certainly aren’t getting good drives or open shots against those two! I also agree that you get a better view live then on TV. Live, that D made St. Mary’s look like St. Mary’s High School (by the way, can we bring that cheer back?? I loved it when it was chanted in the old Kennel!!).
This team is really coming together. Meech is playing smart, Rob is able to shoot over his left shoulder again, Elias doesn’t care who is double teaming him when he scores, Matt is the best guard in the country, and Steven is playing a great all around game to make up for his slumping shot. Add in a bench that is growing up quickly and you have a team that NO ONE will want to play in the tourney!!
Mark Few should be Coach of the Year for what he has done. Another 20+ win season. Absolutely spectacular!!!
by trufflshuffl on Feb 12, 2010 10:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
My first post
Hi everyone,
I just discovered this site and think it’s great! I have a couple of comments that I’m sure have been said before but I think are worth repeating.
First off, Mark Few and company do an excellent job of recruiting players to fill in the gaps of graduating seniors and NBA draftees. Who’d a thunk at the end of last season, they’d be on top right outta the gate! WAY TO GO coaching staff!
Secondly, the individual effort of Steven Gray on defense (by the way, I love what he’s done with his hair this year) may be quietly earning him WCC defensive player of the year. I’d hate to have to battle him for the last breath of fresh air on earth – what an animal!
It’s great to see Will Foster finally getting and giving quality minutes. So many folks give him too much negative criticism but I for one am a positive member of his fan club. When he is in you can just see him setting screens, gaining position, and blocking out (sometimes more than 1 person at a time) in text book fashion. Great effort Will – I’m glad you stuck around.
I can only watch the games from my home but I’m sure you can hear me cheering clear down to the kennel. I think I bruised my hand last night watching them dismantle the Gaels.
GO ZAGS!!!!!
by wesolint on Feb 13, 2010 12:15 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Will getting minutes...
ther should be a ton of minutes tonight vs. San Diego. As a matter of fact, Few should change the starting 5 for this game. The reason is, SD is not that great of a team when they are hitting on all cylinders, never mind they may be without their leading scorers tonight. From ESPN preview today:
Senior De’Jon Jackson (12.0 points per game) suffered a season-ending knee injury last week, while leading scorer Brandon Johnson (14.6 ppg) could miss a second straight game with a groin injury.
Here’s my staring lineup for tonight’s game:
Foster
Olynyck
Kong
Arop
Gibbs
Tons of minutes for the bench!
Tom117
this late in the season
starting 5 should remain the same; however i agree w/ your main point that your 5 Foster, Olynyk, kong, Arop, & Gibbs should see exponetial more minutes.
this is a great time to set up experience for next year and our bench for the tournament.
I would also like to see the probable starting 5 for next season on the court:
Sacre C
Olynyk PF
Elias SF, (He’s coming back he can see the potential for a final four, preseason all-American, own all of Gonzaga’s records- okay four years is a stretch, but I’ve heard through the grapevine on this site he enjoys college, aka Turiaf, etc)
Gray SG
Meech PG
w/ Arop, Gibbs, Kong off the bench plus some of our other recruits, Gonzaga will dominate the WCC for the next 3 years.
I know its waaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooo sooooooooooooon but Few could break Wooden’s record for consecutive conference titles.
I only wanted to relay
my opinion for the starting five for tonight’s game considering SD is at such an advantage. I know that the rotation will not change this late in the season.
Tom117
I like your idea for getting experience for the future, but I don’t think we have to change the starters to accomplish that. Also this could be a great opportunity for Sacre and Goodson to build on their recently rediscovered confidence. The main reason I wanted to post something is that I disagree with that being the best starting lineup for next year. My thought is that lineup would lack the perimeter ball handling to be effective. If meech makes great strides over the summer on his ability to slow down and run the half court offense then maybe. I would like to see
PG – Goodson
SG – Gray
SF – Arop
PF – Harris
C – Sacre
In my opinion this would be almost as strong a rebounding lineup as the one you put out there, plus it is better defensively and in my opinion might space the floor a little stronger. In general though I think tonight will hopefully be a good opportunity to see what we have for the future. Expect Bouldin, Gray, and Harris to only see 20-25 minutes tonight tops.
less than 30 minutes
is what i would like to see Bouldin get, i know he is in shape but it would be nice to see him get some rest
Your right but.........
He’s a Senior and this is it for him. Unless it’s 30+ tonight I expect him to do 30+ minutes. He’s fine with that.
Not sure what you mean...
It’s not Senior Night.
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won their NWC conference championship, I believe their 19th straight victory, just thought I would share the FYI re: Inland Northwest Domination of college basketball!
starting out faster
Look at the Duke game for that – couldnt climb back into it.
Having said that, I find that I get excited for the first 5 minutes of the second half – I’ve not seen them in person this year (on the east coast), but they seem to come out of halftime ready to play.
Thoughts on that?
Matt Stat!
Last 7 games………..20.2 ppg., 5 rpg., 3.7apg., and the big one……..1.3to’s pg. Looks like WCC MVP numbers I hope.

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