Gonzaga upset in overtime by San Francisco
I'll probably have a more clear thought process tomorrow. Here are a few immediate thoughts about Gonzaga's upset loss tonight at the hands of the 8-14 San Francisco Dons. Feel free to rant, rave, or commiserate in the comments below.
There are a lot of stats to grimace at if you are so inclined. 13 missed free-throws, 8-25 combined shooting from Matt Bouldin and Steven Gray (1-10 from three), Robert Sacre with two rebounds (Meech had three). The list could go on and on.
A couple plays and themes really defined the game for me overall. First of all, bad things happen when you don't give Elias Harris the ball at least once per possession. I know Matt and Steven are the vets but the team thrives when Elias is consistently around the ball. We hit many lulls where he was a spectator and our guards either forced shots (see 1-10 from three) or turned the ball over. Secondly, our starting backcourt tandem is out of gas. It was clear within the first five minutes that Matt Bouldin was scraping the bottom of the tank for any kind of fuel he could muster and made some nice plays late but the fatigue was evident. Steven was the same way. Same as with the Elias situation, I realize these two are your leaders but the minutes they have played in the WCC is setting us up for inevitable failure. This is in no way an excuse for the loss or taking away anything from USF. Lastly, I really liked what Grant brought tonight but having him run the point freaks me out as much as Will Foster dribble driving from the wing (wait, both those happened tonight!). I'm also still a bit stunned that Gibbs tried to recapture the 1999 "Runner" moment in overtime. That one felt like a nightmare.
Like I've alluded to in the past, I'm not a big stats guy but they obviously paint a pretty clear picture tonight. I've been to some pretty awful Gonzaga losses, the 06-07 loss against Santa Clara at the Kennel and the 05-06 tourney loss against UCLA immediately jump out. This one ranks well below UCLA but easily above the SCU loss in K2. It doesn't carry the same season ending significance as that UCLA game did or the historic first home loss in the new building but this is a huge, huge, huge upset in terms of mental psyche and the overall big picture. It was setting up really quite perfectly. Gonzaga had already beat their three toughest conference foes on the road and obviously turned on the cruise control. Now it's time to get back to basics and just take them one game at a time. I'd love to say we can still win out and do this and that but, in my mind, it's all up in the air because I don't know how this group of guys is going to react to this kind of loss.
We've heard all year how this is the toughest team Mark Few has ever had. This ought to really test that.
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i believe the entire body was a sequence of profanity
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sure
but keep it relatively classy.
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I cannot defend Gonzaga anymore
I was defending this team as the best team in the west on CougCenter, then they go and play like this. This was a bad loss against a bad team. I would honestly drop them out of the top 25 for not just this game, but as mentioned in the story, the last 3-4 games were they have really played with little energy and passion.
Spoken
like a true Coug. Whatever buddy.
The old fan club thins a little bit after a loss like this
don’t worry we’ll be back. Hopefully you will too
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Zero sense of urgency
Sounds much better than my opinon that they looked like they didn’t care. And I will give you props for showing more emotion in this recap than the Zags did in the entire game.
With that being said, I am surprisingly calm about the loss. I’m not sure why.
Who to blame?
THE COACHES!
This loss goes squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. This loss comes down to 3 things:
Free throw shooting – 1/7 in the first half, 22/33 overall. We’re giving away tons of points at the CHARITY stripe every game and we WILL NOT win in March playing like this.
Getting the ball to the player who is hot – Sacre finally played like a man in the first half of this game (I was considering trading him for Bowman of Vandersloot on the women’s team up until this). Where are his touches in the 2nd half?
Elias had a great game, another great line in the box score but how does he not get touches coming out after halftime? Bouldin and Gray were both shooting poorly, but they continued to get all the touches. Harris and Sacre playing high-low in the post or inside-out makes so much more sense!
Not attacking Dior Lowhorn – Dior is the best player on USF. He had 3 fouls at halftime, and the Zags didn’t go after him in the 2nd half. This goes right along with the previous point of getting it to Harris and Sacre, they would have drawn his 4th foul much earlier if they attacked him on offense. He finally got his 4th with 5:35 left, and they only went at him a few times in the rest of regulation and OT.
All of these are COACHES mistakes. Free throw shooting can be taught, it comes with practice. Where you run your offense through is the coaches decision. Telling your players to attack a big man in foul trouble is natural.
Oh, and leaving Grant Gibbs in the game for 17 minutes… Yeah, let’s sit our young players who actually have skills (Kong, Arop, Olynyk 21 combined minutes?!) and leave Gibbs in the game?!?!?!
WHAT THE HELL COACH FEW???
At some point Rob has to work for touches
He makes Dior Lowhorn look like a guard out there and just gets pushed all over the court. If you notice some of the best bigs in the country, they all work to improve their position before taking a shot. Guys like Demarcus Cousins, Cole Aldrich, etc all catch the ball in the middle of the paint and have some sort of move where they impose their will on the defense. I’ve noticed that basically every one of Rob’s shots is either a fade away jumper or a sliding hook shot. That is, if he can avoid turning the ball over.
Another big part of being a dominant big man is working for offensive rebounds have having enough basketball knowledge to get into good position down low. Rob hasn’t demonstrated any of this all year. He’s spoon fed by his guards to try and get him going but I would literally jump out of my chair for some sort of play where Rob tracks a shot and either comes through with a big tip back or offensive rebound to get a reset. Developing post moves is one thing but there are a lot of small things that he hasn’t really improved all season.
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You are right about his
agressiveness. He tries to finess his shots when he should be a bigger version of Elias Harris. But when the smoke cleared he had 13 points and only played 30 minutes. That’s not too bad, better than he did against Santa Clara.
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Let's Just Let it Go...
This was an incredibly hard loss to take, and against a terrible team. However, we cannot let it define our season or the rest of league play. If we win-out and beat both St. Mary’s and Portland (and roll through the conference tournament), we can still get a 5 seed in Spokane. Ultimately, I hope this loss brings a new sense of urgency to a team that has been coasting through WCC play. If this loss gives them a taste of defeat (and it should), I hope that they will play just that much harder the rest of the year. I’m not putting this loss on Few or the coaching staff—they may have made some bad decisions, but ultimately they were not the ones on the court. This loss should rest squarely on the shoulders of Matt Bouldin. I know he did what he could to pull this game out, but as the lone Senior leader, these are the games where you prove your mettle and refuse to lose. This is more Matt’s team than Few’s, and he needs to inspire our team for the rest of the year and play with a level of intensity that we have never before seen from him. Matt needs to take a queue from this guy and set a new tone for the rest of the season…
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by Zagnificent on Jan 30, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
I totally agree
this loss hurts us, but it is in no way representative of this team . . . GU can survive A loss in the WCC, we have done it in the past we can do it again. 04-05 we lost twice @ USF and @SMC and we still won the regular season title and made it to the tournament, the next year we had to squeak out a WCC Tournament Championship ON OUR OWN FLOOR and we survived to get into the tournament and should have gotten into the elite eight, 06-07 was another survival year with the whole Heytvelt debacle, I just think we need to take a collective deep breath. This is a young team that was getting complacent just like GU does every year sometimes we get lucky and go undefeated but sometimes we don’t and this year we got burnt. We still be ranked come Monday, and we can still dominate this conference. The trick is for the coaching staff and team leaders to keep their head down and hard at work. GU can still play in Spokane come March.
We may be in a little bit of trouble...
I think we may in a little trouble here…
Our next 3 games are against Portland, Memphis, and St. Mary’s…If we play ANYTHING like we have the last 4 games….we are going to lose ALL 3 OF THESE GAMES!!!
Now that we have lost a game…it is time to make some changes in the lineup… We need to either start Arop or Gibbs in place of D.M. I don’t know about all of you…but he is NOT the answer!! We need someone who is going to be more of an offensive threat. Not just scoring…but someone who at least can drive TOWARDS THE BASKET..instead of going side to side and picking up his dribble!! These teams aren’t stupid…they all see the same thing here…they know he isn’t going to drive in and do anything with it.
And for those of you who say we need his defense…OH?? Just cause you are fast up and down the court doesn’t mean you are stopping someone!! It’s not like he is stealing the ball and driving down for layups!! We are putting TOO much on Boulding and Gray to do something with the ball…that is what a point guart is SUPPOSED TO DO!! Free up your shooters.
And on defense…we also need to stop crowding the middle, and letting these guys shoot uncontested 3’s…Every night, same thing…really no reason for it. And for the FT’s…Bouldin shouldn’t be going to the line at 8:00 left in the second half…FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE GAME?? We need our good FT shooters to be there WAY SOONER THAN THAT!!!
I hope we can work on some of these things really quick or it could be a long 3 game stretch!!
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Meech wasn't on the floor at the end...
…can’t blame Meech for this one, dude.
everyone calm down
the goal was to get Meech and Sacre more involved offensively to make us a better team. they did so today so it was a step in the right direction. this game was nothing more than Dior Lowhorn stepping up and making more threes tonight than he had all year and Matt/Steven not showing up until too late in the game.
also, good minutes by Grant. if he can play smart and if Meech can continue improving, Matt and Steven can finally get a much deserved break and give up some minutes to Grant/Meech/Manny. i would also like to see Bol help out with those minutes again, but he’s been a ghost lately.
gonzaga will be fine and will roll through the rest of conference play after this wake-up call, but something has to be done about that free throw percentage. they aren’t going anywhere in march if they can’t bump that up to at least 70%.
lastly, can someone please let Rob know it is okay to rebound?
by trufflshuffl on Jan 31, 2010 1:30 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Seems like every team
we face has someone stepping up and having career {3} nights against us.
Did they steal Bol’s road map for perimeter shooting success? He lost his…
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Bol
keeps proving why he’s not the focus of the offense. Can’t do anything but hit open 3’s, last night 0/2. Can’t wait for him the next couple years but he’s proven his playing time is justified, or a bit generous.
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WE CAN'T STOP ANYBODY!!!!!
I’m agreeing with Gonzaga3. Potential trouble ahead. How the Zags rebound from this will be very interesting. We could easily lose in Memphis and at least 2 more games in the league. We could be sitting and waiting to see if we can get an at-large bid, which means an 8 or 9 seed. Or maybe we’ll wake up. If it was all roses, it wouldn’t be fun being a fan.
I wrote a fanpost yesterday about our style of play. Well, folks, defensively something must change NOW. Nothing we do could possibly be worse than what Gonzaga is doing right now. 2 things we do that is at least reasonably good is stopping the ball and defensive rebounding. Other than that they just look like they’re running around chasing their opponents. Looks like chasing a chicken around the barnyard. The definition of defense is: force your opponent to do things that they do not want to do. Make a ballhandler go left, pick up his dribble, make a lob pass, shoot from beyond his range, post up further out, etc, etc. WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING!! Offensively, we’re fine. Shooters have off nights. Teammates make up for it.
Mark Few- change your defensive philosophy today. Even look at some tapes of LMU 1989-90. They played defense. I see 2 broad choices- slow it down or speed it up. Slowing down- we look decent in the half court trap. At the least, it eats up a few seconds off the clock. We’re a better zone team. Zones can be better at finding spot up shooters. Zones can be aggressive if you want them to be. Speeding up- stretch the D the full length of the court. Traps and more traps. If we did that, our centers have to step up, challenge, and block some shots. LMU played full court from the opening tip until the final buzzer. They seemingly scored 6 points at a time.
It’s time- the proverbial zit has “come to a head”. Defensively it would be impossible to play worse. Let’s find a style that fits this personnel and also is difficult to play against. Right now these WCC opponents are circling the Zags games on their schedules as big nights.
Portland at the Kennel
Hopefully this loss will serve to re-energize the team for next week’s game against Portland. My first in-person game was last year’s painful loss to Memphis, and I will be most unhappy if my second experience isn’t any better than the first…
That said, I still have to wonder if the physical bashing from Santa Clara (Meech, Matt, Elias and Steven all affected) had more lasting effects than we know?
losing hurts!
I get a lot of static for defending Demetri, but for everyone who thinks he should be replaced as a starter, I have to ask, “by whom?” All the alternatives have demonstrated at least as many fatal flaws as Meech, without as many redeeming features, and I see Few trying to get enough breathing room in a game to test other possibilities. In the past, we have survived bad shooting spells and opponent’s hot spells by tightening up on defense. That didn’t happen last night, and it ultimately killed us. Harris is rightfully praised as a great offensive addition to the team, which excuses his early missed free throws, but I hate to see him fall into the historic Gonzaga trap of ignoring both the need to defend and the need to play as part of a team. Any time a single player, whether Bouldin, Harris or Gray, has to put the entire team on their shoulders, it seems like the hard way to go in a team sport…On another note, does anyone know why Villarino isn’t playing? And wouldn’t you think he would be the logical go-to guy if Meech isn’t measuring up?
You know what?
The pressure of being perfect is off. There is no streak to maintain. All the guys have to do now is just play. This has been an exciting season so far, and I think there is much more to come. Remember, the Zags are rebuilding this year after loosing three starters and a sixth man last year. The team is young and can only improve. Many here thought that they would loose a conference game or two, so okay, there’s one. If we drop in the rankings or the bracketology, who cares. We can concentrate on play, not opinion. Portland, a tough opponent, is looming and they would like nothing better than to come to Spokane and pull off another upset.
Tom117
OMG!!!
I’m a Zag fan thru & thru. But these guys have a way of raising my expectations and just when I think they are the best thing since sliced bread they really stink it up! Yes, we’ve had some great wins and some really disappointing losses,ie, Duke. But this game last night really leaves wondering if my expectations are just too high. What is most frustrating is what is a point guard driving into the paint who cannot make a free throw?
If Steven and Matt are so tired, how would they ever play at the next level where they play almost nightly. They seem to come off the deck and win as they did after the Duke debacle. Lets just hope they can do it again…if not just maybe its time to change horses!
Frustated in Montana
Bouldin is tired??
I hear he got an Amazon Kindle for Christmas. Plus, he listens to music most of the day, so he says.
Pull the toys and concentrate on Basketball more? Just a thought…
Also, in his twitter posts it seems like he is always saying he needs more sleep. And naps…
I love Bouldin but maybe its time to spend more time thinking about doing well enough in his last year so he has a better shot at earning paydays at the next level.
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STATS!
That took 3 months, but your right on about the stats. They do matter and they are one of the strongest tools coaches use for development! The only difference I see in your analysis the tendency to lump players together. Breakdown of individual stats is crucial to the development. Example: 8-26 shooting for Matt and Steven, thats 30.7%. When really it’s Matt 6-13 thats 46.15 and Steven 2-13 thats 15.4%. Another blanket statement that appears to reference Matt and Steven only because of the way you preceded your comment about guard turnovers. If you included all the guards your statement would be more accurate. All the guards, Matt Steven, Meech and Gibbs had 10 turnovers! Matt-1, Steven-3, Meech-4, Gibbs-2. Steven and Matt played 41 minutes each! thats 1 to for Matt in 40+ min. and 3 for Steven in 41min. ! Goodson and Gibbs had 6 to’s in 39 combined min. and Matt ans Steven had 4 in 81 combined Min? Thats another lumping of the stats. This is not a rag on your post as much as it is an accuracy point! Your key to the game in your post to me was the lack of the most "talented player on the team not getting the touches in key transitions. Spot on! Besides making free throws, “E” not getting touches for several possesions in a row was, IMO, Game, set, match!
Your right about the minutes too! Matt has been rode hard and put away wet! I also think his hand injury is playing a part in his shooting and ball handling accuracy.
As always, JMO and one more defense of my player! Matt…..6-13, 1-5 3pta, 12 rebounds 5 assists, 1 to, 15 pts.. by the way all 3 baskets in the OT. Other things to consider with this new team might be, spacing on the floor in both offense and defence, How they play double teams and recognize it coming, being ready for passes, knowing the set play and options within those sets, correct help in your “D” set just to name a few other things to consider in breaking down a game. Sometimes my emotions dictate my evaluations but I find STATS a good tool to review!
Good post!
It's just one game
This really is not the end of the world – look at the circumstances surrounding the game:
1. 6 road games in 28 days, of which this is the last and is followed by 6 of 9 at home (I think)
2. Combine that with a young team just coming off of a hard win on national television, and probably looking to get back home
3. a guy who has shot 8/47 from behind the arc goes 5/7
4. The inevitable off game by Bouldin/Gray, which was bound to happen
5. Again, a really young team
Yeah, its frustrating as all hell they lost to USF, but it was a bad night and they just happen. 21 games ago, everyone thought this team was young and maybe this was the year of re-building; we’ve avoided that, but games where the youth shows happen.
(Same time, maybe thats just post-game rationalization)
I really don’t know if losing is ever good, but maybe getting kicked in the ass before the Portland/Memphis/St.Mary’s stretch helps re-focus as the team realizes they aren’t simply invincible and can magically find a way out of everything.
at the same time
dammit, i don’t believe we lost to usf.
by Jerikantilles on Jan 31, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah...
I remember watching the last time we lost at USF, my senior year. We ended up losing 2 non-conference games that season but still ended up with a 3-seed in the tourny. This stuff happens in college basketball. It’s amazing how amped up these teams and crowds get when GU rolls into town. It makes it real tough to roll through league with a spotless record.
biggest game all season
Yeah – for all of the small schools who are (probably) not going to the NCAA tournament, this is their tournament. Fans turn out for the Gonzaga game, because everyone wants to knock off the top.
I’ve always wondered if, by the time the NCAAtourney rolls around, its not just three months of stress of playing teams a)you’re not supposed to lose too, and b) who have crowds much like the NCAA tournament
by Jerikantilles on Jan 31, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
about TIME
This team has been on thin ice all year—and, for me, it was about time they listened to the music. We are good… not great! I think everyone is excited about how good we are, but with that, NOW everyone expects us to never loose. This loss will bring the fans back to reality and will motivate the team for the rest of the season. I think this needed to happen.
FEW SHOULD GO TO THE NCAA!
HEY WCC REFEREES: F*CK YOU!
An obvious goaltending call, not called. WHY? No question that Elias’ shot was goal tended, on the first look OR the replay. WHY did they look at it and then not reverse it? Cheating? Yes, it was. This may be the worst loss to stomach, because even though SF played light years beyond their capability we hung in and were cheated. This was cheating. I know it’s not classy to blame the refs, but screw being classy, they almost lost us the SC game and they flat out lost this one for us. That was goaltending. WE OUTSCORED THEM BY 2 IN REGULATION. This happens every road game we have in the WCC, but we always overman them late. The refs don’t let us play. We had so many ticky-tack calls go against us, then E or Sac gets raped inside and somehow it’s a clean block. All the hip checking and bumping goes uncalled when SF does it, then we try to play physical and get called. STOP HANDICAPPING GAMES! IT IS OUT OF CONTROL!
We won this game by two, even though we played like garbage and SF played better than they ever could’ve dreamed. We held their “post” Lowhorn (who is a joke) to like 7 points inside. 5-7 after 8-47 on the year? Why the hell was he shooting? His selfishness and lack of skill should’ve made us win this by 30, but even with unbelievable luck…
WE WON BY TWO! Few should protest the result. I just don’t see how they could look at the replay, not reverse it, and still have jobs. Pathetic, shame on them.
At least we get a wake-up call, and I wish pollsters could see a tape of this game because we would’nt move down too far if they saw how much of a circus the officials created. What IS goal tending if that isn’t?
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by SoundPound on Jan 31, 2010 11:27 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
There were some bad calls and non-calls,
like when at about the 3:50 mark, Harris drove the baseline and was held by the arm, no call, he spun to his right and was tied up with a guard, no jump ball called, then went up for a shot and the ball was stripped out. FInally a whistle. The call? TRAVELLING! Turn over for Harris.
Shortly after, Harris draws a foul on their forward and he fouls out. The SF coach calls the team over as if it is a timeout and draws up a play. The ref comes over and clapps his hands to tell them to get to the freethrow line. All of the Zags are already at the line and ready to shoot. The ref just stands there and lets them have their free timout when there should have been a technical called on the coach.
Tom117
The refs could have dug Gonzaga a 10 point hole
and I still would expect the Zags to win. I really can’t blame the refs for Gonzaga losing last night as they really did dig their own grave.
The one thing I really notice with WCC/Pac-10 refs is that they rarely convene to discuss calls. There are multiple refs for a reason and, in that instance, someone behind the play could have enlightened the ref that was in a bad position. I don’t care how long it takes, just get it right.
That being said, we lost the game. Freaking Dior.
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It wasn't so much that the Zags dug themselves
in a hole, but moreso USF played beyond what they’ve shown this year. All the WCC is playing at a higher level when they face Gonzaga.
The refs do get it wrong sometimes, though.
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Zach
my point is we outscored them by two… and … lost? The refs literally lost us the game! I think the referees dug us a 15-20 point hole (in total, i know we weren’t down by 20) and we STILL took it to OT playing like crap. I don’t see how the NCAA could allow these refs to still work for them (or the WCC, whatev) after they missed the goaltending call which was blatantly obvious, then they watch it again and don’t see it? They saw it, and should therefore be fored and the result should be changed to a Gonzaga W. This was CHEATING! Did you see the ref “explaining” it to Few by waving his hand around to represent NOTHING and essentially ignoring him? That reminded me of Remember the Titans, when the ref tells Denzel’s asst. coach to suck it after an obvious bad call, but the refs kept us down. Wow, we are going to rape that “basketball team” from USF in the Kennel.
Even with a series of terrible USF-biased calls, we still outscored them in regulation. If we just got beat by a WCC team I would be unhappy, but I just can’t accept this loss fully, because, you know, we actually won!
You can blame the refs for just about everything in this game. The fact that we didn’t beat them by 20 as well as the loss. We would’ve won if we weren’t cheated. Shame on the WCC for being so sad that they must fix games. Screw this conference, they don’t even know what’s good for them. This killed any respect the WCC might have had.
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Frustrated
What I think is frustrating for our guys is that going up against the non-conference teams, we were able to be physical and then we tried to be physical in portland and that just resulted in the WCC refs calling everything on us…and then last week Santa Clara was allowed to be as physical as they wanted…there is ZERO consistency! One game they can be physical, another they can’t. It does feel like the refs are catering to the style of play of EVERY other WCC team out there and when we try to be physical, we get shut down, but the other teams can be physical against us.
I’m not blaming the loss on the refs…we should have been up by 10 when the goal tending wasn’t called, but I do feel like it is unfair. But hey, it feels that way every year.
it came down to one actually two hustle plays
by Gray that didn’t go our way;
Gray hustling for the rebound (twice actually) one that went out of bounds had he just let it go without reaching for it as it was off a missed USF shot that went far from the rim, the other was the game clinching rebound that he grabbed a split second too early; attempted to save passed blindly to Dior for the game tying shot. We get that rebound we win. We didn’t, we lost, not becuase of Gray, just because we are not going to win every game. Texas lost, Kentucky lost, as did other top 4 seeded teams.
Many of the players are tired, Matt shooting an airball from 6 feet is clear evidence of that.
Robert stepped up offensively, which was clearly a game plan, his confidence is back.
This game was not a key game.
We have been on the road alot as I have posted last time/before, and a couple others have this time. We are at home.
Winning the WCC regular season title came down to us beating St. Mary’s & Portland anyway at home in the kennel even, whether we won or lost to USF didn’t matter other than having a perfect regular season.
We got upset no reaon to get upset.
Few does need to recruit a top PG though as I do not see either Meech, Gibbs, or GJ leading this offense consistenly in the next few years. We need to find some quality bench minutes to sub for Matt against these weaker opponents.
FTs killed us again and after they won it for us the game before.
Our seeding depends upon us beating Portland (home), Memphis (road), & St . Mary’s (home) as well as the regular season title.
Players can rest, kiss their girlfriends/wives, stress about what to buy for Valentine’s day, and focus on their studies.
We will play better as Gonzaga plays to the level of their competition (a Duke exclusionary clause implemented).
Kennel the team will need you to get loud, wild, smart, crazy, energized, and have some fun!
Good point guard.
Got one coming……………….Kyle Dranginis. However, next year could be a problem. At the beginning of the year I was hoping for a Big, still am but Gary Bell or Nic Johnson would fill a deeper hole. EDZ and ZB and others were on this before!
We Should Be Scared....
…of the University of Portland! They beat USD (away) by 9; LMU by 40, Pepperdine by 16, USF by 16, and Santa Clara by 22. The latter two were AWAY games for the Pilots! That’s what I thought OUR stats would be against WCC teams. Instead we’re coming away with very unsatisfying wins or losses. Doesn’t bode well for the future at all.
They didn't face the same efforts
Portland gets a regular effort from those teams, and for the most part, they are 10-15 points better than their opposition before tip-off. Without having a bulls-eye on their backs, that’s how they’ll finish most games too. They don’t have to deal with Dior hitting 5 threes or Santa Clara reigning threes even though they shoot like under 30% on the year as a team. They instead get the normal and predictable from these offenses. It Portland was the target, they would lose at least 4 or 5 games in this conference.
Now they get to go on the road against an angry GU team. PORTLAND should be scared.
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