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FIBA U-19: Mixed Bag for Team Canada

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In a game that concluded just a matter of seconds ago, Team Canada opened up the FIBA U-19 tournament with a disappointing 88-77 loss to Australia. Prior to this opening game loss, Canada had been considered one of the favorites to win this tournament, as the team features Gonzaga commits Mangisto Arop and Kelly Olynyk, as well as the highly regarded duo of Corey Joseph and Tristan Thompson. However, I'm sure most of you don't read this blog for my views on the Canadian National team, so lets focus on the performances of Manny and Kelly. Here is a quick look at the stats that each put up in the loss tonight.

Mangisto Arop: 27 points (10/21; 1/3) and 11 rebounds

Kelly Olynyk: 11 points (4/8; 1/4) and 5 rebounds

 

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Let's start by examining the terrific performance of Manny Arop. When we interviewed Manny last week, he mentioned the tendinitis he had been battling over the past month. Well if this performance is any indication of how he is recovering, all I can do is offer a big thank you to the Canadian doctors. Manny was the best player on the court tonight, and kept Canada in the game almost by himself. I continue to be blown away by how well Manny rebounds for a guy who is only 6'5, and I absolutely love the aggression and passion that he plays with. With his ability to slash to the rim, it's no surprise that Manny was able to get to the free-throw line eight times tonight, and I certainly expect that number to grow when he starts playing in NCAA games, where the referees are much more inclined to protect the athletes. On a Canadian team featuring the #4 and #6 ranked players in the entire 2010 class, it's great to see that Manny is without a doubt, the leader and the best player on the team, and if his performance tonight is any indication, the best player in this tournament. 

 

Unfortunately, Kelly Olynyk did not impress at the level that many Gonzaga fans hoped. I know there is an opinion going around that Kelly might be expected to contribute this year, but I don't buy it. Kelly was hampered with foul trouble throughout the first half, and to be honest, five of his 11 points came as the game was in the final two minutes, and the loss was inevitable. I am intrigued by the skill set that Kelly has, but I think that we will continue to see him struggle against the better teams in this tournament. Kelly won't be able to play against the best in the world until he is able to put on more strength, and until he is total comfortable with his frame.

Manny and Kelly return to the court tomorrow night at 5:30 PST, as Canada takes on Syria. I expect Canada to rebound from this tough loss, and come back and have a fairly east game against the Syrians. This is certainly a must win game, as Canada ends group play on Friday night with a very difficult game against Spain.

We will continue to update you on the play of Manny and Kelly throughout this tournament, and hopefully Canada can get back on the winning tack, and make sure they have a long stay in New Zealand.

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can we see these games anywhere

Is there television or internet coverage of these—- was Kong suppose to be playing as well— where is he at?

by vandyman on Jul 2, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Fibatv.com

I believe is where you can watch games. It’s a pay site thing so I think you get 24 hours worth of coverage for five bucks.

Kong was trying out for the senior men’s team with Rob Sacre. Manny is on the U19 team.

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by Zach Bell on Jul 2, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

Redshirt Kelly!

It’s such a no-brainer. I know it is one game but he’s got a similar build to Austin and is far less polished. If we learned anything with Austin it is that his frame is subject to some poor defensive choices which lead to dumb fouls. Let him mature, let him build his core strength for a year. We can survive 2010 without Kelly Olynyk.

Poling/Sacre/Harris and even Dower (if he is playing as well as I hear) are enough to do damage in the WCC.

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by Zach Bell on Jul 2, 2009 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Redshirt Two

With the way the 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes are unfolding, and with the amount of newcomers coming into the program, I really think the Zags should redshirt two of these guys. My take would be on redshirting Kelly and either Sam or GJ, as I think we have enough depth at those positions to allow for one of them to redshirt. All 3 of these guys could use a year to build strength and get acclimated with the DI level of competition, and this would allow for more scholarships to use in the stacked, and potentially incredible 2011 class that the Zags are eyeing.

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Jul 2, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Redshirt Three

Watching him against lesser talent this year puts me with your analysis also! In fact, with Manny, Bol, Andy and Sam, I just don’t see alot of minutes over the next couple of years for Kelly unless there is some drastic changes in his physical and defensive statures. JMO

by mikesequim on Jul 2, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Redshirt four?

Redshirt Bouldin! Kidding of course.. I really wanted to redshirt Sam this year but it sounds like he is playing so well that it could be hard to redshirt him. I have no clue what’s going to happen.

I’m firmly on the “do not redshirt GJ” bandwagon. Kids gonna kill it here.

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by Zach Bell on Jul 2, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

GJ

I just haven’t seen or read much on him to place his contributions vs the current rosters guards.. We do have an opportunity to redshirt him this year though. We have 4 guys the can play the point if needed. Meech, Matt, Steven and Grant, so that does give the coaching staff some flexibilty. Are we sure of Will’s position with the team this year? Have you heard any rumblings on that scholarship? Just curious.

by mikesequim on Jul 2, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Austin saved Will

If Daye would have came back, it is hard to imagine that Will would be on scholarship. But Will fits nicely into that 13th spot now so I think the roster is set.

I just can’t imagine GJ coming to Gonzaga to redshirt. I have to believe that Few told him he could play right away. he is ready

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by Zach Bell on Jul 2, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

GJ

So far, I have heard nothing but glowing reviews about GJ. Obviously it’s summer basketball, so his performance now is not an accurate preview for what we can expect come November, but I am hearing that it will not be much of a drop off when Meech is on the bench and GJ is in. Sam also has been raved about, but also needs to put on a ton of strength to reach his potential.

If i were gambling man, I would guess that Kelly and Sam would be the most likely to redshirt, but I think the staff will choose to only redshirt one person.

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Jul 2, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Never can discount the injury bug...

For as long as I have been watching them, the Zags never seem to come into November injury free. A lot of the time that makes the decision to redshirt a lot easier…From what I have seen and heard the October practices are pretty intense and usually someone comes out with an injury.

As far as GJ playing, I really think because of the THIN front line, this has to be a running team. With two fast dudes running the point and scorers filling the wings this is a possibility. I would bet that GJ plays, backs up Meech. Gibbs slides over to a backup 2 role.

by DKZagBlazer on Jul 2, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Injuries!

All good points! Just going back 5 years, Erroll, Josh twice, Micah, Steven, Sean, Rony, Doudney, not including the minors, like sprains, flu’s ect. If Meech and GJ trade off, where do you put Matt and Steven? That was my point above! You already have 4 guys who can play the point and 3 of those can play the 2 guard and 1 of those can play some 3 if needed. However, the 3’s are loaded IMO. Manny, Bol as 3’s and Elias as 3/4 position looks pretty strong to me. Your especially right about the front line. Thats why I think you could see the possibility of seeing alot of Meech, Steven, Matt, Manny, Elias, Bol and Grant on the floor in various combo’s with Andy or Robert. If BZ is right about Will, Sam could be a red shirt but so could GJ. Right now I’d guess Kelly for sure, GJ next, then Sam, only because we’re so thin as you say up front. Always fun to try and guess what the Coaching staff will do.

by mikesequim on Jul 2, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

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