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The Significance of Austin Daye

I have been planning to write this post ever since news broke that Austin Daye was declaring for the NBA draft. I sat down on numerous occasions and prepared to write about what the exact implications for Gonzaga would be because of his decision. However, everytime I sat down to write, I struggled to figure out how to convey exactly what kind of ramifications his decision will have not only on next season, but for the future of this program.

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Losing Austin to the NBA would obviously have a huge impact on the shape and success of next season. With the graduation of Micah Downs, Jeremy Pargo, and Josh Heytvelt, I assumed that the offense would revolve around Matt Bouldin and Austin Daye next season. While Matt is a very smart and talented player, he does not have the mentality or ability to be the dominant offensive option for Gonzaga. On the other hand, Austin has that exact mentality, and has the ability to take over a game on the offensive end with his vast array of post moves and dribble drives. Having Austin next year would certainly make it easier on Demetri Goodson, as it will take some time for him to fully understand and be comfortable running the complex flex offense Mark Few runs. Having a go to option like Austin would give Meech an outlet when he is struggling, and simply allow the offense to be more successful.

If Austin returns, you better believe that he will be the focal point of the offense, and also likely one of the captains and leaders for the team. Losing Austin would force a guy like Elias Harris or Bol Kong into minutes that they might not be prepared to handle. It would be a huge luxury for the coaching staff to ease the freshman into the rotation rather then giving them heavy minutes right away. However, if Austin leaves, Gonzaga would not only lose their primary offensive option, but they will also lose the luxury of developing the incoming freshman at the pace they want to.

The one area where I think the decision of Austin is even more important is in the future of recruiting. Whether you like to believe it or not, the 2007 recruiting class elevated Gonzaga to elite status in the basketball world. The class of Daye, Gray, and Sacre proved that Gonzaga not only could compete on the court against the best, but also could recruit and sign the top talent in the country. The epitome of this was demonstrated by Austin Daye. Austin was the first 5 star to ever commit to Gonzaga out of high school, and was one of the top recruits in the entire country. For Gonzaga to be able to recruit at this level again, a player like Austin Daye must be successful during his time in Spokane. If Austin comes back next year and puts together a dominant season, and elevated himself to a top 10 pick, it will have an impact on the next 5-10 years of Gonzaga recruiting. If Austin is successful, Mark Few and the coaching staff can go in to the living room of a 5 star recruit and say, "even though we might play in a mid-major conference, if you come to Gonzaga you will fulfill your potential and play in the NBA". However, if Austin goes pro after this year, it's going to be difficult for the coaching staff to sell Gonzaga to a top 25 recruit.

When Austin first declared for the draft, I was utterly convinced that he would return. However, the more I think about it, the less surprised I would be if he was gone. The main reason for this is that the quality of the 2010 draft is significantly higher then the 2009 draft. The reason for this is the amount of talent that is returning to school, combined with some very good high school recruits, who will only be playing college basketball for one year. If Austin goes pro this year, he is likely to get picked at some point late in the first round. While he can certainly improve on that position with a great junior year, I'm not entirely convinced that he will be able to sneak into the lottery. Think about these potential names at the top of the draft in 2010: John Wall, Willie Warren, DaMarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors, Ed Davis, Cole Aldrich, Al-Farouq Aminu, Greg Monroe. Even with a terrific season next year, can Austin pass any of these guys in the draft order. With great workouts, Austin actually has a better chance at being a lottery pick this draft then he would in 2010.

No matter what, it should be an interesting draft process to follow. The return of Austin would have a huge impact on this program, and really vault the Zags into a Sweet 16 caliber team.

 

 

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I Guess I Just Don't See It.

Why he would go into the draft this year! I feel like he only had a few dominant games all year.

I know since I go to Gonzaga, everyone here is critical of the players. But when you watch Austin on the court 25 to 30 times a year, like I have, I feel that his playing isn’t what it should be. Surrounded by the talent we had this last year, next year could be his year to open up and start averaging around 20-25 points a game. He can do that.

Plus I think his attitude is horrible. He whines a lot. I know it is great to have emotion when you are playing, but most of Austin’s emotion is similar to a temper tantrum. It gets old.

I just think next year he could still be a lottery pick, not a 2nd rounder.

by zag4life on Apr 19, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

The NBA drafts on potential

It’s as simple as that. All you need is one team to fall in love with you, and to think that you could be a star 2-3 years down the line. Look at a team like Phoenix at 14 or New Orleans at 21, these are both teams that could fall in love with the potential that a guy like Austin has, and take a risk on him.

If you are Austin, why come back next year when the 2010 draft is incredibly stacked, when you could go this year and be picked in the same spot

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Apr 19, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll be back

I do applaud him for testing the waters though. I think it is a tremendous opportunity for these kids to be able to basically go through the entire draft process and still have the option to come back. The NBA has a great system with the process which is probably a big reason why agents in the NBA are not as well known as agents in other sports (Rosenhaus, Bus Cook, etc.)

I thought before the year started that Austin was for sure gone after his sophomore season but I think his stock is very very low right now and next year he’ll have the opportunity to become a big time player. The team should be his and Bouldin’s next season without a doubt. Gray, Meech and the others will have a major impact but there is no doubt that Austin is going to have to be sensational next season because of the youth.

I’d be curious to see how many people “want” him to come back. I love Austin as a player, and I could really care less about his attitude because I just think he is one hell of a competitor that he lets his fire spill over into some emotions that may not look great on tv. I pray that he comes back and I think he will.

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by Zach Bell on Apr 19, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree

It’s obviously best for Austin and for the program that he comes back. However, I just have this fear that some agent gets in his ear and convinces him and his family that he is a first round pick….and then he sits around and doesn’t hear his name called until the second round. I really hope this scenario doesn’t play out

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Apr 19, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of Donte Green

Being a big Kings fan (which has been hard this year), Austin Daye and his decision reminds me of Donte Grean (formerly of Syracuse). Donte Green is a skinny, undeveloped finesse player with tons of potential, who chose to enter the draft after a mediocre (at best) Freshmen year. Even on the worst team in the league, Green has had few playing minutes, and has struggled greatly in a league with bigger and better players. The kid (that’s what he is) just gets tossed around by larger and more physical players. Even Green’s attitude is a shadow of Austin’s. Green never shows up for extra practice, and appears utterly apathetic at times. It’s clear that the kid regrets going in the draft, and unless he develops quickly, will have to find another profession in the coming years.
For Austin’s sake, I hope he takes his time to develop as a player, and more importantly, physically. Can you imagine Austin trying to drive the lane against an NBA center? I don’t care how much potential he has, the scouting reports speak for themselves: “This kid will get you fired. Soft? He invented soft.”

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by Zagnificent on Apr 19, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Great comparison

As a slight sidenote, can you imagine that Syracuse team this year with Green on it? They could have given Carolina a run with all that talent.

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by Zach Bell on Apr 19, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way he's coming back

With Aminu from Wake Forest, Monroe from Georgetown, Aldrich from Kansas, and Davis from North Carolina all coming back to school, this may be Daye’s best shot at a lottery pick. If those guys were staying, I would be more positive he would come back, but since they are not, Daye is going to stay in the draft. He would be dumb not to.

Either way, next year is going to be a skeptical year. The only positive I see? Mills going into the draft along with Daye, royally screwing over St. Mary’s. Hey, he killed in the Olympics, so I can definitely see an NBA team loving him.

by objesguy on Apr 21, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I go back and forth

I’m really not sure what Daye will do, because I genuinely believe that he likes it here, and wants to prove himself. However, as you mentioned, there is so much money available at the next level, that it can be hard to turn down. Either way, Austin has a great opportunity and potentially a great future ahead of him

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Apr 21, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

2nd Hand Account

I have a friend who is close to Austin who talked to him today, and all he would divulge is that nothing is certain right now. He acknowledged that there are upsides and downsides, and he and his family are currently considering all options, as well as the opinions of scouts and draft experts (who are all over the place on him).

I personally don’t see Austin making a great transformation between this season and the next, and his draft stock gradually decreasing with each year of unaccomplished potential. Strictly considering this decision in terms of his fiscal benefit, it would be a huge mistake not to go in the draft, regardless of the fact that he would get thrown around like a pinball in the post, and strictly be limited to 3’s and deep jumpers (which he is good at, but not great enough for a team to draft him on strictly that quality).

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by Zagnificent on Apr 21, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting input

Thanks for the input Zagnificent…..we are going to do our best to try and secure an interview with Austin over the next couple of days. I think what you have heard from your friend is 100% correct. There are many pros and many cons to this decision, and it will ultimately comes down to what both Austin and his family thinks is best.

However, I do disagree on his transformation. I think if Austin embraces the role as a leader for this team next year, you will see a huge increase in his stock. The problem is, I’m not sure if he can significantly improve his stock with the incredibly stacked 2010 draft class

Final 4 or bust

by Max Mandel on Apr 22, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

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