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Much to be thankful for...

We just wanted to wish everyone a safe and happy Thanksgiving.  After last night's come from behind victory, Gonzaga's second in three games, it's pretty obvious that we're pretty damn lucky to be fans (and alums/students) of this exceptional university.  Gonzaga's victory in Maui is just another landmark in Mark Few's unfathomable coaching career and he has the Zags out to a start that many of us could never have dreamed.

After the Michigan State game, many of us were still unsure of this team.  Upsets in early season basketball are generally taken with a grain of salt as many teams don't hit full stride until mid-December.  After Maui, however, it has become clear that this Gonzaga team is dangerous in ways that we haven't seen before.  Matt Bouldin played poorly all night but had a great effort on the boards and hit a huge three in the second half to tie that game.  The Cincinnati team played him like John Calipari's Memphis Tigers used to play him.  Pressure him at the top and knock him out of the game.  Unlike past years, Matt stepped up in other ways and made sure that he made a mark on last night's game which is a great sign of maturity.  Steven Gray has also risen to the occasion.  He's doing exactly what we hoped he would.  Strong defense, big three's, and great drives to the bucket.

The 2009 recruiting class has to have exceeded expectations for nearly everyone.  Although some aren't playing as much as we hoped, each one of them has impacted this team in some way.  Elias Harris can be described no other way than an instant sensation.  G.J. Vilarino has surprised me with his shooting ability and composure on defense.  Kelly Olynyk is the definition of a hustle guy that has shown glimpses of great offensive ability.  Bol Kong struggled at the start of the year to even dress but made a nice impact in Maui and every Gonzaga fan would agree that he will have an excellent career here if he continues to work.  Manny Arop is, surprisingly, the freshman we've seen the least of but I like what he has brought.  He hit a big jumper against Colorado and has shown great rebounding ability when in. 

I don't think I have to say much about the rest of the squad.  Rob Sacre is the best low post player we've had since J.P. Batista was roaming the paint with his soft touch.  Demetri Goodson had his best game of his Gonzaga career last night and Grant Gibbs even played extended minutes and showed great toughness.

It's obvious that when you look at what is upcoming on the schedule, there is still room for improvement.  Maui may have set the bar high for Gonzaga but when you consider that Washington State and Wake Forest loom on the horizon, this team still has great hurdles to leap. 

For now, just be thankful.  Thankful for Mark Few's loyalty to the program, for Tommy Lloyd's superb recruiting efforts overseas and in Canada, and for the University continuing to facilitate the growth of the program.

Enjoy your Turkey Day and we'll see you back here soon as we begin our look at the Cougars of WSU.

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Recruiting 2010/2011

With this kind of showing, the recruiting picture will only get better. How would you not want to play on a team like this?

by mikesequim on Nov 26, 2009 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

The sky is the limit!

If you think about it, the depth of there talent is getting better and better. We have obviously brought in a lot of talent in the past, but not this much of it. And to think that Dower is waiting in the wing! Sorry to jump on you about Meech, but I’m sure a lot of you gained more appreciation for him last night. In my opinion he may be one of the best on ball defenders in the country? It’s nice to see the early season success, but we all know this team still has much more room for improvement. Tha’t a positive!

glen mccloud

by montanazag on Nov 26, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

They did!

And kudos to them, but it you look real hard, maybe squint a bit, you might just wonder if they did or not. Maybe UCLA lost big. The way they are playing righ now, UCLA would struggle against Loyola Maramount.

From Andy Katz:

That’s true. But it also puts the Bruins in a light that makes you wonder not where Portland would finish in the Pac-10, but rather where would this UCLA team finish in the WCC?

Let’s remember, this is a league that features Maui Invitational champ Gonzaga, a Saint Mary’s team that has barely missed a beat without Patty Mills, a San Diego team that has already beaten Stanford and Oklahoma and a Portland team that has easily dispatched two Pac-10 opponents.

Would those same Bruins we saw Thursday night finish any higher than fifth in the WCC?

That’s something few, if any, would have pondered in the preseason.

Tom117

by Tom117 on Nov 27, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow. This is so much fun. Let's see...

Oregon – Lost to Portland
Stanford – Lost to San Diego
UCLA – Lost BIG to Portland
USC – Lost to LMU
Arizona – Finished 6th at Maui; Gonzaga won.

Who’s left?

Oregon St – Yeah … nothing to worry about there.
Washington – Too afraid to play Gonzaga … err, I forgot … Gonzaga needs WU.
Washington St – Plays Gonzaga this Wednesday

There are also Cal and Arizona St, who killed USF.

(And in the interest of full disclosure, UCLA did beat Pepperdine.)

by leone on Nov 27, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Ack...

UW, but you get the idea.

by leone on Nov 27, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm thankful for...

A program that has been able to achieve unheard of success and maintain integrity every step of the way.

by ZagsFanatic on Nov 27, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

Here you go...
Entering the 2010 season, there was an immense amount of buzz surrounding the ’Zags incoming freshmen class. Most of the attention was given to Bol Kong. However, it may be his freshman ’mate Elias Harris who has so far been getting the most praise.

Mike DeCourcy of the Sporting News spoke with Michigan State’s Tom Izzo and the coach had nothing but love for the German swingman’s game. " That Harris kid, if he keeps improving, is going to take them from good to great. He can do a variety of things. He can run the floor, shoot the three. He can pass. He goes every time to the offensive boards — relentlessly," said Izzo.

According to ESPN’s Chad Ford, the NBA buzz has started to swarm about Harris. According to scouts, if Harris can make the transition to small forward (he currently plays a PF/SF combo in the ’Zags lineup), his stock will rise tremendously.


Chad Ford
Harris benefits from Maui Invitational exposure
“Harris is another player who has made a name for himself early in the Maui Invitational. He’s not putting up huge numbers, but he’s been a beast on the boards and has shocked scouts with his ability to play some 3. After seeing him dominate in his home country of Germany, most teams had him penciled in as an uber-athletic, albeit undersized, 4. He’s been able to show some perimeter prowess at Gonzaga. If he can make the transition to the 3, his stock goes up tremendously.”

Also includes a link to this Sporting News article from Tuesday which I hadn’t seen:
http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-11-24/years-gonzaga-squad-built-hit

by ZagsFanatic on Nov 27, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

I hate to even bring this up, but...

I hope he doesn’t become our first “one and done”. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

by oldzag on Nov 27, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

It's possible...

… but he’s still got a looong way to go. He’s only two months out of Eurobasket, where, in 6 games, he averaged 12.3 mins, 2.2 pts, 2.3 boards, and 1.8 fouls on a German team that went 1-5 and lost to the likes of F.Y.R. of Macedonia, Latvia, and Croatia.

by leone on Nov 27, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

If Few started

Sacre, Olynyk, Harris, Bouldin, Goodson – 5-4-3-2-1, with Gray subbing in for Goodson, Bouldin, and Harris, then would they be stronger in the paint and at the rim, but less on the perimeter? Do they give up wing play not starting Gray? Maybe not. Harris is versatile. It would give Harris some experience at the three and if he excelled, then he might just be a “one and done”.

Anything is possible. But Gray offers more experience and poise in the starting line-up. One could argue that Gray has demonstrated leadership that the team would miss in rebounding and general BB IQ. Interesting.

Tom117

by Tom117 on Nov 27, 2009 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

Gray isn't leaving the starting lineup any time soon.

Gray has paid his dues and, frankly, has been the top defender on the team. Add that to 27 point games and the top free throw shooter on the team . . . well you don’t mess with success and despite all the kudos to Harris, Gray has been a fabulous success in his own right.

mjc

by quidveritas on Nov 27, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

BRILLIANT win!!!

We may have two WCC teams in the top 25 next week. T.J. Campbell is an exciting PG, loving the behind the back, no-look passes. That said when Minnesota came at them with everything on defense they were visibly frustrated made a lot of mistakes. Hopefully Mark Few took note of some of these weaknesses because that is a very dangerous team.

by ZagsFanatic on Nov 27, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Big ten is so good, why are they all losing?

Mich St, Minnesota, Michigan and Illinois is having trouble with Utah!

by mikesequim on Nov 27, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

great win in Maui

That was a great win for the Zags in Maui. I think that NW College hoops in general is pretty good, with the Zags, Cougs are good, especially playing Bone’s style and Washington and Portland.
Coug game is a potential trap game with Klay Thompson much improved.

Josh Normand

by Jmnor8 on Nov 30, 2009 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

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