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Gonzaga fans got their first shot to check out the new look team this evening as the Bulldogs hosted their annual "Kraziness in the Kennel".  EDZ and I were unable to attend for the first time in a number of years but there has already been a bunch of videos and articles written about the event so just figured that we would compile them all here for you so you don't have to go searching around too much. 

From what we've heard the youngsters dazzled all night.  Manny Arop and Elias Harris scored in double figures, GJ Vilarino looked like, dare I say, a speedier version of Meech, and Kelly and Sam are coming along.  Bol Kong was in street clothes as a result of a little ankle injury he sustained in practice.  This year's event was not like last year's with all of the hoopla surrounding it.  The lack of ESPN involvement probably had a lot to do with it as did Jeremy Pargo's graduation who was kind of the ring leader when it came to past versions of Kraziness.  Anyways, here's a collection of tidbits from the event.  We'll continue updating the list as things come our way. 

List updated Sunday afternoon at 12:15:

Spokesman.com | Blogs | SportsLink | Post Kraziness
Jim Meehan had a nice writeup on the last night scrimmage with some good insight and nice quotes from Mark Few and the squad.

Featured Video | News On Demand | KREM.com | News for Spokane, Washington
About a minute and a half of extended highlights from last night's scrimmage. Some great glimpses of Elias Harris, Manny Arop, and GJ Vilarino.

KREM.com- Nice Slideshow of all the new Gonzaga faces
See if you can match all the names with the faces!

Featured Video | News On Demand | KREM.com | News for Spokane, Washington
Mark Few discusses the good and the bad about tonight's scrimmage.

Featured Video | News On Demand | KREM.com | News for Spokane, Washington
Matt Bouldin talks about his new role as team leader, how the freshman are coming along, and his expectations.

Featured Video | News On Demand | KREM.com | News for Spokane, Washington
Steven Gray talks about the young team and his new look.

Featured Video | News On Demand | KREM.com | News for Spokane, Washington
Elias Harris gives a great interview. Talks about his first experience in the Kennel, how he is getting used to American basketball, and what he expects this season.

YouTube - GU's Kraziness in the Kennel introduces this team
GU's Kraziness in the Kennel introduces this team. Video gives a good feel for the environment tonight and a look at a very, very new team to most Gonzaga fans.

Bulldogs Make Public Debut At Kraziness In The Kennel - GONZAGA OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE
Article about the scrimmage written like it was a real game complete with a PDF boxscore.

I'd recommend checking in with KREM.com throughout the weekend as they seem to have the stranglehold on this video interviews which are always fun.  We'll continue updating this post as things come across the wire but please please please feel free to share your thoughts with us and what you took away from Kraziness.

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Great post!

Thanks for the info, Guy’s!

by mikesequim on Oct 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Kennel

Was present at Kraziness in the Kennel and a few things stood out to me.

1. Gonzaga is going to find a hard time finding playing time for all of these talented guards. Meech, Bouldin, Gray, Arop, Villarino and Gibbs are all players who could/should see significant playing time. Meech looked like he is a much better shooter than last year. Gibbs looks to be strictly a jump shooter in the Bankhead mold and may be the odd man out this year when it comes to significant playing time. Villarino looked really good, quick and aggressive. Manny looked sharp. Good be perhaps one of the best backcourts in the country.

2. This freshman group is young and extremely talented.

3. Gonzaga will have little to no post presence this year. Sacre and Foster did not look all that comfortable or confident catching the ball in the low block area. Andy Poling is clearly not going to make any major contributions this year (I see him playing 10 minutes or so a game). Elias Harris definitely showed that he is the most talented frontcourt player. He is an explosive scorer who has a good mid range game as well. Sam Dower, although not a great shooter, could overtake Poling when it comes to playing time this year if they choose not to redshirt him. Talented group but not a group that will be real efficient with their backs to the basket.

by desmet on Oct 24, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Thoughts...

1. Elias Harris was the most impressive player on the floor. Very athletic (dunks and a come out of nowhere block) and seemed to just have a good flow for things.

2. Grant Gibbs was the second most impressive. Good stroke from outside (2 of 3, though the miss was bad), hustled, passed well, and had a ridiculous and one finger-roll falling out of bounds thing.

3. I still hate Robert Sacre. He does nothing well. Doesn’t keep the ball high, so he can’t do anything on offense. Doesn’t play strong post D. Just a dreadful player who will surely get WAY, WAY too much PT.

4. To paraphrase Denny Green, “WILL FOSTER IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!” Basically, he’s not very good at basketball. Whatever, he’s still at least disruptive on D based solely on size.

5. Stockton was not afraid to shoot and miss. I think he started of 0-6 or 7 before making a breakaway layup with about a minute left.

6. Bouldin and Gray were clearly just going through the motions. Gray looked like he was in a total malaise.

7. Dower has a man’s body.

8.

GJ Vilarino looked like, dare I say, a speedier version of Meech.

I have no idea what you were watching. Really. No clue. There was absolutely nothing to suggest that. Meech is faster than GJ in his sleep and showed it on court. GJ clearly has some Pargo in him, but in the “I could tell after watching him 10 minutes exactly when he was gonna drive and not pass” kind of way.

by SethGrandpa on Oct 25, 2009 4:26 AM PDT reply actions  

One more important note....

I really think this team needs to embrace a small lineup this year. We’ve got guards galore and our big guys…well…yeah. I’d really like to see this lineup at least tried…

Meech
Gray
Bouldin
Gibbs
Harris

I know this won’t happen ever, but ‘Nova has shown you can effectively run a four guard offense. Yes it creates match up problems on D, but people always seem to forget that a bad D match up for you is probably a bad D match up for them the other way. I understand it’s crazy…and it’s okay…I know it is. But it’d sure be more fun than having to watch Sacre and Foster f’ up the offense.

If we run the offense through Sacre I may kill Mark Few. Just saying.

by SethGrandpa on Oct 25, 2009 4:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

As far as comparing GJ and Meech it really not fair. I think they will find a way to make it work out so that they could both prosper, but most importantly so that they can win games. Both are too good to sit on the bench long term. Meech knows the offense, better intangables, leadership skills and has been here a year. GJ isbigger, better offensive instincts, the long term better prospect and one of the few guys on this team that can create and get his own shot. As far as athletically, they are both pretty amazing but GJ is quicker and more athletic (players and staff will tell you that).

by memorial80 on Oct 25, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

SethGrandpa

I haven’t watched Andy play since his Senior year in HS. GU talked about all his weight he’s gained back but on some of these video’s (although hard to see) he still looks very slight to me. How did he appear and do physically? He’s always had great hands, how did he do there? My biggest concern right now would have been his durability up and down the floor! How was he there? Thanks for whatever you can provide.

by mikesequim on Oct 25, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's clearly put on weight, but not really mass.

Kind of like the transition Foster has had. He clearly has more muscle tone, but doesn’t look and bulkier. He really didn’t do much in game, I doubt he’ll be a factor this year.

by SethGrandpa on Oct 26, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just what I've heard about GJ

Wasn’t there so just trying to piece things together.. Thx for your thoughts

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by Zach Bell on Oct 25, 2009 8:39 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Future looks bright

Not sure how bright in March 2010. My impressions from last night:

Positives
1. Meech is developing an outside shot and is stronger
2. Harris is awesome
3. Gibbs was a pleasant surprise
4. GJ and Arop will be contributors this year.

Negatives
1. If it wasn’t for the hairdo I wouldn’t have noticed Gray
2. Sacre and Poling were not impressive
3. Bol Kong??

Looking forward to 11/2 to see them after more practice together.

by WyZag on Oct 25, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Kong tweeked his ankle

Should be back as early as this week. The jury seems to be out on Steven gray which worries me but it’s great to hear all the praise for Meech. The kid is a gamer and if he is shooting well this season, he’ll be one of the toughest matchups in the conference

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by Zach Bell on Oct 25, 2009 2:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ehhhh.

Other than the fact that it got horribly boring midway through game 2, here’s what I got out of it.

1. Meech will shoot more this year and is faster than GJ.
2. GJ shot way too much. He seems like he needs to play more with a team first style like Gonzaga.
3. Manny and Elias were awesome.
4. Steven is getting praise from everywhere, but looked like he just wants attention with his hair, not his game.
5. Sam Dower looked like he could be a presence, but still needs work.
6. Sad that Bol hurt is ankle.
7. Little Stockton was impressive at moments, but shouldn’t have played as much as he did.
8. Sorenson was in the crowd and personally, I’d much rather chant for him in the crowd, then P. Maag on the bench.
9. And last but not least, our inside game/big men… are not very good. I was hoping Will, Andy, and Rob got better over the summer, but it didn’t show.

by zag4life on Oct 25, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

So we're Gonzaga again?

All I’m hearing is that we have top-flight guard play and below-average big men. Those ingredients mixed with the fact that we don’t have a bunch of NBA “hopefuls” trying to up their PPG like last year with Heytvelt, Pargo, Downs, and Daye. Looks like we will have an actual team mentality with an established pecking order, both of those aspects were non-existant last year. Last year was a bunch of guys looking for their shot, Raivio’s SR year was all Derek, year before that was all Morrison. It’s looking like this team will fit the old Zag mold but a little more talented and deep.

by SoundPound on Oct 25, 2009 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Couple points to be made RE: the discussion

First, in regards to Sam shooting threes and the other freshman shooting poorly and looking a bit rushed…what did you expect? We must remember that they are freshman and extraordinarily inexperienced and they were definitely amped up being that they were playing in front of 6,000 + standing room only fans. GJ missing three free throws and trying to make the “big” play, Sam shooting threes, Manny missing some shots, Kelly looking a big tentative, and Elias well I haven’t heard anything bad about him yet, is all a direct result of these kids being a bit overexcited about there first experience in K2 and doing a little too much. The reports about Sam shooting from the outside and GJ making plays actually make me happy because I’d rather have them overextend themselves early on than pull a P-MAC and completely go into a shell and waste god-given ability. Let’s let them develop and get comfortable in their own skin before making sweeping comments.

Secondly, I’ll admit that the reports regarding the returning players are a bit scary. I’ll wait until the start of the season before really pushing the panic button but hearing about Steven’s lax attitude and Rob’s overall inefficiency is what I was hoping to avoid. Rob has the ability to play and I think we saw that his freshman year when he played very well against Connecticut and was a key reason for that victory. He may have been a bit overexcited as well as he hasn’t played in front of the K2 crowd in nearly a year. Steven is a bit more concerning but I’m not going to act surprised by this because we saw it all last year. He’ll have some great games but I’m waiting for him to prove me wrong and show some consistency. Will seems like he’ll be able to eat up some minutes. Andy and Grant are the last of my worries. They’ll be the glue guys and dependable contributors.

Lastly basically a kudos to SethGrandpa. I love the idea of a four guard lineup and I expect that with our depth at the guard positions you’ll be seeing that this season. The only thing, and this is something that EDZ brought up to me, is that there is no real way to have Steven, Matt, and Grant on the floor at the same time. Those three do not have the athleticism to defend well enough on the perimeter. Those ’Nova guards were very crafty and a majority of them were very athletic defenders that could hit big shots. I would love to have Meech, Gray/Grant, Matt, Manny, and Elias/Rob/Andy out there. Or, if he is ready, even have Bol out there in the backcourt to add a little more size. Obviously, there is a lot you can do with this backcourt and that is very exciting.

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by Zach Bell on Oct 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally able to post my thoughts...

Okay…as you all know (and by all, i mean edz, zb, and dk) I am a very critical and opinionated about my basketball team.

My thoughts on the scrimmage:
1) I am really going to like Manny, Elias, Grant, Mike Hart, and G.J. – Manny and Elias have great athletic ability and have a feel for the game that will translate well to the college game and quickly. Both seem to have a strong work ethic as well. Grant seems be have used his redshirt in a promising way and looked extremely ready to be on the court and contributing and his shooting was spot on. Mike Hart looks like he has worked very hard and is ready to fight for time. G.J. was quick and athletic, as a freshman point guard he has a lot to learn, and I’m afraid that wasting him behind Meech (whom he could pass) will not be the best option for 3 years.

2) Rob has not shown a great deal of improvement on the offensive end. – We keep hearing about how much he has improved and was waiting to show us….and we are still waiting. He looked very similar to what we saw freshman year and that was a lack of offensive skills, but a lot of energy on the defensive end.

3) Andy reminds me of Sean Mallon. – Andy seems very skilled and knowledgeable about the game, but lacks the athleticism that could lead to major success and contribution at this level.

4) Sam and Kelly will be fine, but need more time – They both have size and skill, but need some more time to fully develop. I am not saying this as an idea to redshirt either player, but they just need to get up to speed and learn the system before they are ready to contribute, but I think both will eventually be successful here.

5) Matt is ready to be the star of this team – Obviously he is ready after the MVP season he put together last year, and we are ready for him to show the nation on the big stages Gonzaga attends this year.

6) Steven needs to care – He seems more worried with his picked-out hair-do than the game itself, but there is no denying his skill set and hopefully he can pull a UCONN stat-line most nights.

7) Meech seems to be playing with more energy and desire, but I think he is taking his role in the wrong direction – I figured my thoughts on Meech would change just like they changed with Pargo from his freshman to sophomore year, but Meech seems to be marching to his own beat. He doesnt seem to be playing within the game plan and constantly is doing things his own way. That is a scary thought, but G.J. is there to take over if need be, which I might prefer at this point.

8) Will is still proving that we have wasted 4 years of scholarship – enough said.

Feel free to critique, but its just my opinions and thoughts from my 4th row seat on Saturday.

by roof'nZAG on Oct 27, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks

All interesting stuff. I agree with you about Andy’s athleticism but the Andy I watched in HS against very good players leads me to believe he will contribute just fine at ths level. The three years I watched him, he was ALWAYS around the ball, Just put himself in the right place all the time. Not flashy but BB smart, in the plays both offensivley and def. all the time. Remember he has 4 years to mature and fit into A ROLE and thats what I think he will be, a role player! I’m very happy with his skills. What I would like is for someone who understands what he has gone through in the past 3 years with his illness to translate that into how he has developed over the past 2 years, including up to now. My reasoning is simple, if you saw Andy play as a Healthy Soph. in HS against players like Kevin Love and others with his young weight on him vs. the next 3 years you might, just might be willing to wait and see like I am. However, if he hasn’t pulled through this illness, even though they say he has a “Handle” on it, you will probably be right. Anyway, thanks for your insight from the 4th row, I for one appreciate your views.

by mikesequim on Oct 27, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i shouldnt have added the ‘contribute at this level’ since it was based on a scrimmage, but I ultimately came away with most of the stuff that you discussed. He did look very skilled and bball smart, so hopefully he can get all the way back and show us all why he was so highly regarded in his high school days.

by roof'nZAG on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

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